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As well as the obsession with some nobody on Tumblr whom gets nothing right at all ever. Which is hilarious and yeah it is bitter.
JMO’s favorite episode and it’s always the same is the CS movie(she’s even called in the CS movie). She doesn’t fake her love of Emma and CS. No way in heck with how well versed she is, is it all an act.
Anybody that thinks that is just bitter cause JMO doesn’t talk about their ship like that.
And the award for completely ignoring the point goes to Michael!!!!
Random out of this world question that I never thought of before:
……….. Do you guys think Milah and Emma might actually be similar? I know we haven’t seen much of her…but hmmm…….
I was posting in the Rump/Milah thread and was saying how I would have liked scenes where we actually see what attracted Milah to Hook and vice versa, what made HER someone he loved as opposed to a random woman to sleep with and then I started wondering maybe if we did see that we would learn maybe she and Emma are somehow similar (this show loves its parallels).I don’t know about Emma, but there are certain visual similarities in costuming between Milah and Belle such as this one:
and this one:
The style of the dresses may be slightly different but there are certainly similarities.
I don’t think Emma and Milah are similar and I don’t think the show would want them to be similar on account of it would just make Emma look like a replacement Milah for Hook. They definitely could’ve expanded on the Milah/Hook love story though.
Yeah I remember back when they had Hook actually love her as opposed to just taking her captive as a sex slave that I wanted to see how that relationship developed. Pity.
That line about Hook returning Milah “soiled” was a huge insult to Hook’s character.
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Keeper of FelixProbably they’ll explain Emma’s absence the same way they’ll explain the Charmings and Zelena. She’s in Storybrooke cause she was outside the reach of the curse.
But Rumple, Regina and Hook would’ve been inside Storybrooke. Rumple especially wouldn’t have any reason to leave considering Belle and Gideon are there. I wonder if they’re going to have Emma have a terrible accident so she can’t travel and use the babies as an excuse to keep Belle, Snowing and Zelena out of the way which leaves Regina, Rumple and Hook to travel to Henry.
Imagine Rumple, Regina and Hook stuck in a car on a road trip across America lol.
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Keeper of FelixEverything you say is fair and you’re right. People probably shouldn’t call other people anything. However, are you really comparing calling someone “bitter” to calling someone a “rape apologist?” That doesn’t seem very fair. I’m just saying calling someone bitter is an observation that I don’t find to be THAT rude on a tv show’s forum compared to other things I’ve seen.
I was just trying to find a comparable example, it might not be on the exact same level but it gives the gist of the point. I’ve seen CS called “rape culture” and I’ve seen Neal’s death be blamed for any negative opinion of CS so I was trying to take that into account when I made the point.
My opinion of CS is that whilst the idea of it was interesting, and Tallahassee had a lot of chemistry between Emma and Hook (which you want for any potential pairing), the execution of it wasn’t as good as it could have been. OutlawQueen shared the same problem. It seemed like the writers, instead of letting it progress at a natural pace, were trying to rush it.
In CS’s case, I think the writers needed to use the Neverland arc to let Emma and Hook be on genuinely friendly terms before progressing to flirting in 3B. As it is, Hook goes directly from almost leaving Emma to die to suddenly wanting her to declare her love for him. It’s almost like it skipped a step.
OQ suffers worse by the fact that Robin is completely unbothered by the fact that Regina was the Evil Queen despite us later finding out that Regina was responsible for the death of Marian, Robin’s wife. Those ideas just don’t gel because essentially what you have is Robin falling in love with his wife’s murderer.
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Keeper of FelixI think this will be the last season and if I was the writers I would have the curse broken by the mid point and the 2nd half about getting back to SB setting up the series finale with everyone returning and everyone reunited.
Nobody wants to see this curse drag out especially when 3 characters are away from their true loves and families. I prefer Henry, Hook, Rumple, and Regina wake up in a couple of episodes then it’s about breaking the curse and making everyone believe again until the 2nd half where it’s about getting back to SB and that’s probably when a lot of our familiar characters will start returning and I do think JMO and the others will be in more than just one episode.
Agreed.
To be honest I can’t see how they’re going to make season 7 work without it seeming like a rehash of season 1. Are they going to have another magic town? I dislike Lucy’s attire in the finale because it was essentially Henry’s outfit in the Pilot and all they’ve done is done a gender-swapped version of Emma and Henry. We have no idea why Henry has left Storybrooke, how do Rumple, Hook and Regina fit in if the action takes place away from Storybrooke? If the season 7 finale was the last ever episode of OUAT then that would be the perfect time to get the entire cast back. I can see them explaining Snowing, Belle and Zelena’s absences as they’re back in Storybrooke looking after the babies whilst Rumple, Regina and Hook were sent to help Henry, but how are they going to explain Emma’s absence?
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Keeper of FelixYou know @Michael, if you don’t like what you read in the Swanfire thread, then the simplest thing to do is NOT visit the Swanfire thread. You have your own opinions, that’s fine, but other people have theirs too. One is not more valid than the other. The fact that you visit the Swanfire thread then come here to complain about the opinions in the Swanfire thread, and by extension insulting the people by who have those opinions by calling them “bitter”, is what Hook would call “bad form”. You don’t like what you read in the Swanfire thread, then don’t visit the Swanfire thread.
And while I don’t agree with @Michael’s language and direct attacks at people at times, I see no problem visiting the SF thread, disagreeing with something, and then commenting about the people’s opinions in this thread. There are things I agree with and things I disagree with in the SF thread and I comment as such. What I just read in the SF thread does come off as a little bitter if I’m being honest. Which is totally fine! But then if someone else calls you guys bitter in the CS thread, then you can’t be surprised. It’s an opinion and I don’t view that as bad form at all. In fact, if you don’t like what you read in the CS thread, then you don’t have to come here either. It works both ways doesn’t it? I just read something in the SF thread that says only CS fans have enjoyed JMO’s work in the last couple seasons and only CS fans have enjoyed Emma the last few seasons. Well now aren’t you guys taking shots at CS fans now in your thread and doing the same thing?
I have no problem with SF fans venting on the SF thread about CS fans and same goes with CS fans on their thread. It works both ways and you have to be ok with reading it if you’re going to go to that thread. @Michael went to the SF thread and then commented on what he read in the CS thread. You went to the CS thread and then commented in the CS thread about what you saw. You would have never known what @Michael thought of JMo’s exit interview if you didn’t come here. So I would say the same thing to SF fans as I do to CS fans. Understand that if you visit the other’s thread, you may not like what you read, but then deal with it. Calling people bitter is hardly the worst thing @Michael has said haha.
There is a difference between disagreeing with someone’s opinion and calling the actual person themselves “bitter” for having that opinion. It would be like someone who hates CS calling CSers “rape apologists” just because they view CS as “rape culture” and Csers don’t.
If Michael had said something like “I’ve seen comments saying that JMo secretly hates CS and I really disagree with that because she’s said some of her favourite moments feature CS etc” then that’s fine, it’s a perfectly valid point of view and it’s also respectful of other people’s views. Instead Michael’s going “Oh that person doesn’t like CS, they’re obviously bitter because they don’t see things like I do”.
Do you notice the difference?
“I just read something in the SF thread that says only CS fans have enjoyed JMO’s work in the last couple seasons and only CS fans have enjoyed Emma the last few seasons.”
That’s an opinion that CS fans are the only ones that enjoyed Emma in the last few seasons and is perfectly valid to disagree with. All you need is a non-CSer to say “I enjoyed Emma” then you’ve got a powerful counter-argument. That is not name calling CS fans, unlike Michael who is calling SFers “bitter” just because they don’t agree with his/her point of view.
“Calling people bitter is hardly the worst thing @Michael has said” isn’t exactly a compliment. Basically what you’re saying is “He/She’s called people worse”. The point is Michael shouldn’t be calling people anything.
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Keeper of FelixI thought it was supposedly meant to be Maleficent? Didn’t A&E say that a while ago?
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Keeper of FelixYou know @Michael, if you don’t like what you read in the Swanfire thread, then the simplest thing to do is NOT visit the Swanfire thread. You have your own opinions, that’s fine, but other people have theirs too. One is not more valid than the other. The fact that you visit the Swanfire thread then come here to complain about the opinions in the Swanfire thread, and by extension insulting the people by who have those opinions by calling them “bitter”, is what Hook would call “bad form”.
You don’t like what you read in the Swanfire thread, then don’t visit the Swanfire thread.
Mod Note: Please watch your language, next time.
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Keeper of FelixSo because of Michael’s tendency to insult people and throw a mini-tantrum just because they have a different viewpoint from him/her, I thought maybe the rest of us should try and move the conversation away from SF vs CS or more accurately:
Everyone: I wonder why they didn’t give CS a TLK when they had opportunities to do so?
Michael: CS ARE TRUE LOVE!!!!!! LALALALALALA I’M NOT LISTENING! YOU’RE ALL WRONG! YOU’RE IN DENIAL! YOU’RE DELUSIONAL!Moving on, what sort of role do you think Regina, Hook and Rumple will play in season 7?
I think Season 7 will be the last of OUAT, at the very least they’re running out of Disney movies and I can’t see people sticking around for characters from obscure fairy tales from around the globe, therefore I’m viewing Season 6 as the Final chapter and Season 7 as the epilogue. Because of this POV, I reckon Regina, Hook and Rumple are going to be the Storybrooke versions (which would explain why A&E wanted JMo involved because no way would Emma not want to help but now they’re going to have to come up with a reason why Emma’s not available to help).
I think Belle, Zelena, and Snowing’s absence will be explained as them staying behind in Storybrooke to look after the babies (Gideon, Robin and Neal respectively). Regina, Hook and Rumple have come to help Henry. Emma’s incapacitated after an accident (I doubt they’d kill her, though some shows do like to give the middle finger to an actor who has decided to leave by doing something horrible to their character) hence why she can’t come.
Henry has followed the Stiltskin tradition of fathers abandoning their children (willingly or unwillingly) so I think his role in the new season will be, not only saving the realms or something because he has “the heart of the truest believer”, but also reconnecting with his daughter.
I think Regina’s role will be moral support and finding a new relationship after the heartbreak of Robin and Daniel’s deaths. She’ll also get some “grandma” scenes with Henry’s kid and be uncomfortable with that role.
Rumple’s probably just going to be used for his knowledge of objects, magic, people, etc. Henry needs someone on the team that can give him info. That was one of Rumple’s functions in the main series (which became Belle’s function when Rumple was being shady).
As for Hook’s role, he’s probably going to be in the “you can do it!” role. He can also link Henry’s experiences with Emma’s. I think they may have Hook tempted by another woman. He won’t act on it but it’ll be enough to give a middle finger to JMo that her character’s true love might cheat on her. When Henry finds out about the “other woman”, he’ll give Hook the cold shoulder for a while but he and Hook will reunite later in the season. It will also give fans something to debate about which would get the show tweets.
I could be completely wrong as I have no clue what they’re going to do in Season 7 but they need to link it back to the first 6 seasons in more ways than just Henry was a character in the first 6 seasons and he’s a character in this.
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Keeper of FelixSomething I was thinking about. What do you guys think Hook’s cursed persona will be? For some reason…..im thinking a priest. Why? Because a priest is the exact opposite of a swash buckling pirate and a priest is chaste, so that means not only would hook be in essence virginal, a huge difference from a pirate who has admitted to being, uh, quite well versed in the female bodies throughout his centuries, but he’d also be unmarried and alone. Which is the worst thing for him, since he’d have no memories of his love. Its the worse thing to curse him to be on all bases. I also think itd be quite funny to see Colin portray this.
Rememeber during season 2 when Flook was a thing. Hook and the floor- Hook’s second true love after Milah and before Emma.
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Keeper of FelixWhy didn’t you and your Neilsen friends tune in to the big KillEmma episode?
I wish there were “Like” buttons for posts because I would’ve clicked several by now 🙂
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