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I admit that I had a moment of, “Why is Bruce at the police station?” But the more personal moment between him and Jim worked for me, because it came hard on the heels of Lucius’ confession that he regretted not having told Thomas Wayne what he’d meant to him, so the scene with Jim was Bruce learning that lesson.
I’m wondering if the show is planning on making Lucius Fox homosexual. The way he talked about his “love” for Thomas and his regret at not telling him seemed to go beyond employer/employee boundaries.
The show has already had a lesbian (Montoya), a bisexual (Barbara), so it wouldn’t surprise me if they did choose to add a gay male character in the form of Lucius.
I was bummed that the quiet, crazy guy in the Maniax, don’t remember his name, but the one the cops got, I was getting a kick outta him and was bummed he got killed.
I’m surprised they killed off half of the maniax within the first two episodes. Six were broken out, now we’re down to three. I think the bald guy will be killed off next, Jerome will be sent back to Arkham so that he can come back for future appearances, and Barbara will be the only one left on the loose.
Theo is so cold and controlled and scary, James Frain is killing it. They’ve said that his character’s true identity is someone who people will know from the comics, and even though I dunno much about the comics, I’m excited to see who he ends up being.
I’ve been watching the last episode several times and I think that Theo may actually be Ra’s Al Ghul.
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Keeper of Felix1. What was that thing?
2. Why did Robin make no noise at all?
3. The CGI was a bit badAll magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixFound this gif, ignore the words but what scene has the gif come from? Have I missed a sneak peek or something? It’s of Belle.
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Keeper of FelixThis isn’t really anything new. Basically it’s the Sarah Jane adventures but without Sarah Jane because Elizabeth Sladen is sadly dead.
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Keeper of Felix*sigh*
It’s almost like family was supposed to be the major theme of this show.
Yep, the show has definitely lost its way by focussing on romance rather than family. As I’ve said before, the show could’ve still had CS but kept Neal alive and shown him and Emma (and Regina) working together to give Henry a co-operative family unit which has a positive message. Instead Hook only “won” by default, not by his own virtues. Emma didn’t choose him over Neal, she ended up with him BECAUSE Neal was taken out of the game. I would’ve actually preferred Walsh over Hook. Monkey man actually earned Emma’s love before she got her memories back and he turned out to be a monkey (which I’m amazed I managed to call before the episode aired). Even Henry liked Walsh, whereas he admitted he didn’t like Hook and only seems to tolerate him.
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Keeper of FelixThis is the way I would have set up the narrative, had this been my show. Bruce Wayne should be on the periphery, not at the center. He should be “heard” and never seen. So, for example, we should Jim reading a newspaper with the headline “Wayne Family Killed; Boy Left Orphan” or “Explosion at Wayne Manor; Bruce Lives” or “Wayne Enterprises In Trouble?” Bruce Wayne should be mentioned in passing.
We should know that Bruce is out there in the world but not interact with him. Gotham isn’t supposed to be about Bruce and the rise of Batman. It’s supposed to be about *why* Gotham and Jim will eventually come to rely on Batman to the extent that it does. We’re supposed to be mired down in the muck watching Jim try to hold a city together with no help with the idea that someday little Bruce Wayne is going to grow up and become the hero the city needs, but he can’t yet and the city only has Jim.
So every time they spend an inordinate amount of time building their Batman mythology I keep thinking “you don’t need to do this. The Batman mythology is secondary to the mythology of the city.”
I agree. I think that in season 1, they shouldn’t have killed Thomas and Martha Wayne off so quick. Let the audience get to know them a little so that their death holds a bit more weight to it. Kill them off in the season 1 finale which is when Jim first meets Bruce. We didn’t need to meet Bruce until that point.
As I wrote above, I found the scene between Bruce and Jim in the last episode unnatural and forced. Seriously, why would Alfred, who broke the computer to protect Bruce from its contents, then take Bruce to the scene of a massacre just so he could give Jim, who was covered in blood, a hug?
Jim only knows Bruce professionally, as in he promised Bruce that he would find his parents’ killer, there’s no reason for Jim to consider Bruce a friend. To Jim’s credit, he did look uncomfortable when Bruce hugged him. IMO extend the Bruce/Jim relationship beyond a professional boundary is crossing a line. Jim is not Bruce’s friend, he’s the guy investigating the murder of Bruce’s parents.
I hope they don’t kill off Jerome in the next episode (especially with it called “The last laugh”, though I think it is widely accepted by fans that he is the Joker so they can’t kill him off really or they would rile up the fans). I can see why they wouldn’t want to use Jerome every episode for the whole season, because having him run round Gotham causing havoc and not being stopped would make Jim and the GCPD look incompetent. Having Jerome arrested and sent back to Arkham would leave the door open for future appearances whilst at the same time enabling the writers to use different characters.
The thing with Bruce at the minute is we know he’s going to become Batman but he can’t become Batman yet because he’s still a kid. How old is Bruce supposed to be anyway? We know that at the time of Thomas writing the letter Bruce was 12. Is he still 12? 13? 14?
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Keeper of FelixThose ghost things remind me of the gentleman out of Buffy.
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Keeper of FelixBarbara is nuts. Just nuts. But did anyone else notice her gloves in the alley scene with Jim? Red. Harley Quinn always wears one red glove. I think they are setting Barbara up to look and sound a lot like Harley without being Harley (and she’ll appear later if the show keeps going).
I go back and forth on the Barbara/Harley similarities. I think there are a few similarities but not enough to say Barbara is definitely a stand in for Harley.
Gotham has officially become my new favourite show.
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Keeper of FelixI think it would be really out of order if the heroes decide to put the darkness in Zelena’s baby. Did they not learn anything from the last time they did it with Lily? Also I think it would show how self-centred the heroes really are if they’re willing to put the darkness inside a baby just so Emma doesn’t have it any more. So long as the heroes are alright, why should they care about anyone else that isn’t in their little group?
A&E are in danger of making their protagonists very unsympathetic and hard to root for.
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