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This was a brilliant episode.
The Maniax (why couldn’t they spell it properly? they had the extra guy) stuff was pure gold. Jerome is so obviously going to be the Joker (if he’s not then the writers have seriously screwed up). He does seem to be channeling Heath Ledger’s Joker in places this episode though. I’d prefer them not to go the Dark Knight route but keep Gotham as it’s own self-contained universe. I get the feeling that Jerome is going to become a loose cannon in later episodes.
The Red Band trailer actually spoiled some stuff from future episodes as well as this one which surprised me.
Also surprised by the fact that, considering we’re only on the second episode, of the six Arkham inmates, we’re now down to 3 surviving: Jerome, Barbara and the big tall bald guy.
Barbara didn’t have much to do this episode, neither did James’ Frain’s character or his sister, or Leslie, or Bullock or Riddler. Penguin was absent, as was Selina. It was very much a maniax episode which actually isn’t a bad thing.
Gordon’s role in this episode was centred around the maniax storyline so you can see how that is starting to fizzle away especially with the Barbara connection and the fact that Jerome killed Essen.
The weakest part of an otherwise very strong episode would be the Bruce storyline. It had no connection to the main story of the episode and felt like filler just to remind the audience of Bruce’s ongoing journey. Bruce and Gordon only shared one scene this episode but it didn’t feel natural. Alfred broke the secret computer to protect Bruce from its contents so Bruce fired him then told Alfred that he was either with him or against him. Alfred is getting Lucius Fox to fix the computer then takes Bruce to the crime scene of a massacre just so Bruce can give Gordon a hug.
I’m giving this episode a 9/10. Had it left out the Bruce stuff and focussed purely on the Gordon/Maniax stuff, I would’ve given this episode full marks.
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Keeper of FelixI’ve reached the point with Once where I don’t care any more, I no longer have that excitement and anticipation for the next episode. This feels like a final season kind of thing, and if it is to be I feel kind of glad. They’ve done the author, now they’re exploring the dark one history, that’s the two big things covered so I don’t know where else they could go so whether they’ll advertise the second half as the “final season” or drag it out for another season is anyone’s guess.
This episode was okay. I didn’t hate it but I didn’t love it.
The Emma as the dark one storyline is interesting and it’s good to see dark one Rumple again even if it’s just in Emma’s head.
I have no problems with Merida at this stage, at least she didn’t take over the show like Elsa and Anna did.
RumBelle continue to be the main reason why I watch this show, so whilst the brief scene they had was nice, it was way too brief but also had some things that bugged me, mainly why is Rumple being referred to as Belle’s “beast”? I get that we were being clobbered over the head with the beauty and the beast reference but unless Blue Fairy is being very meta and self-aware, it a very odd and derogatory turn of phrase. Also, whilst it’s nice that Belle’s being included on the adventure this time, why is when she wants to go she’s not allowed yet when she wants to stay behind she’s forced to go?
Zelena- Zelena is just the token evil team mate. Although she’s done bad things that she should be ashamed of, at the same time, it’s kind of refreshing not to have her following the reformed villain line like Hook and Regina. Zelena’s not dong anything particularly bad at the moment, she’s just needling Regina so she’s tolerable at the moment.I want Zelena to be able to keep her baby, I don’t think Regina has any right to just take it from her. Zelena wanted to go back to Oz, they should’ve let and spared us all the drama that’s bound to follow.
Henry- I don’t give a crap about Henry, he’s just a plot device at this point. He couldn’t even show emotion or reluctance about releasing the woman that was responsible for his father’s death. Although the writers seem to write Hook as if the sun shines out of his backside so it’s inevitable that Henry would fall victim to this.
Regina- I liked Regina’s snark but the OQ dynamic is dragging her down as a character. It’s okay on the surface but I’m not feeling like there’s a deep connection between her and Robin which is what the writers want us to think. As to Robin, if he’s still smelling of forest at this stage of the game, perhaps he’d be wise to invest in some deodorant and perhaps shower more often?
Hook- Dear god. When you’re rooting for Zelena to kill him, you know there’s a problem. I feel bad for Colin because he can only act what he’s given because Hook is getting near unbearable. As I said above, the writers are writing him as if the sun shines out of his backside and it doesn’t. As the seasons go on, Hook becomes a more badly written character. In season 2, you had his somewhat sympathetic backstory, coupled with his self-serving nature and there was chemistry with Emma even if it was along the frenemy lines. Now he’s being placed in a badly fitting role of “hero”. Hook is no hero, at best he’s an anti-hero, yes he’ll help out the good guys but only if there’s something in it for him. What the writers are telling us to think and what we are actually seeing on screen are two totally different things compounded by the fact that none of the other characters call Hook out. He’s a selfish prat who’s only interested in himself and Emma. The rest of the town can be damned so long as he gets what he wants which is Emma. If Hook was being treated as an anti-hero then such an attitude would be in character, yet Hook is being presented as this redeemed hero and it just doesn’t gel with what we’re seeing on screen.
Sneezy as sheriff- 3 things here. 1) Doesn’t Sneezy have the pharmacy to run? Where is he finding time to be sherriff on top of that? 2)Why is Sneezy wearing Emma’s jacket or at least a mansized version of it? Is it the new sheriff uniform? It was kind of dumb. 3) This is the second time that Storybrooke is free of issues with the main group being out of town (first time being Neverland). Logically, it’d make more sense for the rest of the town to gang up and kick the main group out of town then they wouldn’t have to worry about anymore crisis’s (can’t spell that word but it’s the plural of crisis) which seem to just centre around the main group.
My two main issues with the episode and the show in general are these:
1. We were told that the only way to get to our land was via the dark curse yet over the course of the seasons, we’ve been shown numerous ways to travel between worlds. It kind of undermines the whole premise of the show.
2. Everyone except Belle gave Rumple the stink-eye for being the dark one, yet you can bet your bottom dollar Emma will be easily forgiven. The hypocrisy of the characters is really irritating. They show contempt for Rumple yet Hook gets a free pass without earning it, it is very frustrating. I will seriously be beyond annoyed if Rumple still gets treated like he’s something they’ve just trod in by the other characters.
Whilst it pays to listen to fans in order to keep your show going, at the same time it needs to be worked into the story organically. Sometimes what the fans want just doesn’t fit and it’s no good forcing it in. CS is such a thing, SQ is such a thing. SQ would actually make more sense at this stage, even though you’ve got the Snow factor, at least Emma and Regina have the history to back it up. Emma just did a 180 on Hook.
I just hope they don’t make Hook front and centre of every episode. I’ll stick with once until the end only because I’ve come this far, so there’s no point quitting now but I’ve reached the point now where I don’t enjoy the show like I used to. I watch out of habit, not because I’m anxious to see what happens next.
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Keeper of FelixSo the UK isn’t going to get Gotham season 2 until 2016.
One of the funny moments of last episode is how Sionis sent Jerome over to Barbara to ask if she wants to be his friend.
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Keeper of FelixI found it funny how Missy poked Davros in the eye- She is definitely one of the highlights of the show as it currently is.
Also enjoyed the line about the Doctor having the honour of sitting in the only other chair on Skaro and it being a normal chair that just seems to be hanging around.
I disliked them getting rid of the screwdriver. The screwdriver is as much a part of Doctor Who as the Tardis. If the old stuff works, don’t get rid of it just for the sake of being “new” and “modern”.
I still dislike Clara, I’m glad she’s leaving. She’s not a good companion IMO, there’s no chemistry there. I think part of the problem is last season they made her the centre of everything and she took over the show without having the likability to carry it. I’m glad she was the one who had to be saved rather than doing the saving, it’s about time she got off her high horse.
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Keeper of FelixIn one tweet, Adam just spoiled Belle’s part in the episode.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixMaybe Zelena will try and take Hook’s heart, although Emma doing it would be a twist. However, isn’t having the dark one take Hook’s heart just a rehash of 4A?
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Keeper of FelixAnd Jerome…..the dude playing him….Wow! Just wow! He’s very in tune with his character! Anyone get the feeling that Barbra will likely end up becoming Harley Quinn???
A couple of us had this conversation this morning and @Phee made a really good point that while Barbara probably won’t be Harley herself, she’ll be the reason why Jerome creates Harley at some point in the future.
Yup. Basically, I’m seeing it as he’s totally crushing on Barbara, but she’s totally not interested, because she’s into Tigress instead, (check the way Barbara is almost hyperventilating as she watches Tigress kill that guy, and it looks like they’ll be making out in the next ep). I’m thinking that being shunned by Barbara will scar him, and so when Harley comes along, and she actually shows some interest in him, he’ll see to it that she gets twisted into his Babs2.0 who is devoted to him. The Barbara/Jerome stuff allows them to play around with and hint at that Joker/Harley dynamic, without straight up labeling it as such, (which I’m pretty sure they wouldn’t be allowed to do because Suicide Squad movie).
Considering this is pre-batman Gotham, I think they could still do a pre-Harley Quinn Harley Quinn without upsetting the Suicide Squad movie. Jerome has not established himself as the Joker yet, Bruce isn’t Batman yet, so there’s no way they could do a fully fledged Harley Quinn.
I have a headcanon on how they could do it. Basically, it’s a hostage situation right before Jerome’s capture, he takes a wealthy family hostage and is using the daughter as an insurance policy. However, there is an attraction between the daughter and Jerome and a hint that the daughter may have a slight hint of craziness about her. The name Harley Quinn is never said outright. We’ll have the GCPD talking about the hostage situation with the “Quinn family” and then towards the end of the episode we find out the daughter’s name is Harley when she tells Jerome her name. Then you’ve got your nudge nudge to fans for the partnership yet to come, and you’ve also got your motivation for why Harley became a doctor and interned at Arkham and happily took on the Joker’s case. She’s been obsessing over him ever since they first met and would explain why she so quickly gave up her successful life to be by his side.
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