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ParticipantYou edited your post whilst I was responding to your original so I’ll also respond to your edit.
I actually really dislike this term. How is it any less offensive than another similar sounding outdated term? It seems better and more correct to say ethnically diverse. While the complaint that ethnically diverse actors only appear in supporting roles only to disappear again into the mist, their appearance at least goes a ways to help round out the diversity. If there were no people from diverse backgrounds in supporting roles, it’d make the show’s track-record even worse. But that is what I’m saying: the role of of Adult Lily going to Agnes Bruckner, instead of a Latina, means one less ethnically diverse actress appearing in the show. It means one more woman of Eastern and Western European heritage getting the slot instead of a talented actress of Hispanic descent, which makes no sense, because the original casting of Young Lily was played by the talented Nicole Muñoz. Whether intended or not, that decision just shows a lack of sensitivity or awareness of these culturally relevant issues.
This actually makes more sense and I can see your point more clearly.
I posed this question the other day but is it possible that when the casting department cast Agnes, the description they were given was for Mal’s long lost daughter rather than Lily so they looked for someone who looked like Mal’s actress. Then when they realise it was supposed to be the same person, they did there best to make Agnes look like young Lily?
The casting department have made mistakes before based on the info they were give. For example, Cinderella’s baby.
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ParticipantLana Parrilla is only one actress out of a main cast of 8; that isn’t going to change unless some of the main cast leave and are replaced by more ethnically diverse actors. To my knowledge, no one claimed Lana is “too white” to count as Latina. She herself identifies as such (so it’s a non-issue). While the complaint that ethnically diverse actors only appear in supporting roles only to disappear again into the mist, their appearance at least goes a ways to help round out the diversity. If there were PoC in supporting roles, it’d make the show’s track-record even worse. But that is what I’m saying: the role of going of Adult Lily going to Agnes Bruckner, instead of a Latina, means one less PoC appearing in the show. It means one more woman of Eastern and Western European heritage getting the slot instead of a talented actress of Hispanic descent.
I’m not saying that anyone claimed Lana is “too white”. My point is that the general gist is that Latina Lily was replaced by white Lily thus the show has no POC. But Lana is latina therefore shouldn’t she count as a POC and she’s in a main role? We can all agree that Once should be more diverse than it currently is, but it’s not non-diverse.
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ParticipantLana is Latina and is one of the main characters on the show but it would appear Lana is “too white” to count as a POC
No one ever said that.
I’m not saying anyone said it but the question remains: What makes someone a POC or not? How do you define a POC?
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ParticipantHow did you manage to post a poll? I thought we lost the create a poll option ages ago?
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ParticipantBut better a group of ethnically and racially diverse actors playing supporting roles than none at all. The lack of representation just stands out, especially when a younger Latina actress is replaced by a non-Latina.
But that’s what people are complaining about, that the ethnically and racially diverse (in other words: Non-white) actors are only in supporting roles then disappear off screen. Lana is Latina and is one of the main characters on the show but it would appear Lana is “too white” to count as a POC.
Yes!
But, adding PoC, LGBT characters or whatever to the show, also has to make sense within the story as well (as a whole or half-arc).
I don’t think the show should box tick. I don’t think a whole or half arc should be based around “Hey audience, this character is gay/black/Asian/non-white/transgender!” It should be worked into a larger narrative. Mulan is bi/gay but that is not her main storyline.
Henry is the only one I could see where his orientation is his main storyline because he’s not really involved in other storylines because the adults tend to keep him out of it. A personal storyline like coming out would suit him because it’s not reliant on other characters so much.
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ParticipantHow about magically remove the baby from Zelena, and stick it in Regina, and Zelena can sit in the asylum under the hospital forrrrrrevvvverrrrr!
I think this would cross a line. Nobody likes Zelena but to take her baby and put it in Regina
all so the situation can be wrapped up neatly in a nice little bow is a terrible thing to do.Though this child didn’t ask to be born, it’s still there and I see Zelena being irresponsible and abandoning the child, leaving it for Robin and Regina to take care of and Regina picking up the slack because she’s mature and not a petty, insecure woman.
Zelena WILLINGLY giving up the child for Robin to raise is the ONLY way the whole pregnancy situation can be redeemed. If the baby is taken by force in some way or another then that is awful.
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ParticipantEven if they did cast a latina actress for adult Lily, wouldn’t there be complaints that yet another POC character is shoved off screen when the Mal/Lily storyline inevitably ends?
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ParticipantTo be honest…I wouldn’t be that surprised if Zelena tried to seduce him. We all know she’s capable of it….heck look at who her mama was!
Perhaps Zelena used a love potion on Robin? If she had the elixir of the wounded heart lying around, what’s to say she hasn’t got a few other potions lying around? If she was making dinner it would be easy for her to slip it in to Robin’s meal or drink (and she does have previous for slipping things into a man’s drink). She didn’t need Robin to be truly in love with her, just in lust with her enough to do the deed so she can conceive.
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ParticipantHad a weird dream last night involving an evil Roland.
:O SOMETHING SO CUTE CANNOT BE EVIL!!!!!
He was killing people the same way as Gerald Crane from Gotham with their worst fears.
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1. I think Zelena is in Belle’s old cell. She also appears to be checking a watch. What is she waiting for?
2. Belle’s looking very purposeful and defiant in this picture. Could she be on her way to confront Regina over stealing her heart?
3. Look how tall Henry has gotten! He’ll be towering over all the adults by series end.
4. Regina and Robin seem to be working things out. Also I bet we don’t see Roland’s face this episode.
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