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I expected the “dirty work” to involve murder or kidnapping or something as bad. Delivery boy isn’t dirty work……unless Hook was regularly getting frosting on his coat.
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Keeper of FelixCrack Theory (Doesn’t quite make sense but the pieces are there):
Will’s sister, Penelope’s, death is very similar to the scene I posted above on how Jack Frost became Jack Frost.
There is a greek myth on someone called Penelope (I think) who was the daughter of some goddess. Hades took Penelope to the Underworld for half a year and let her be with her mother for the other half. This became the four seasons. Spring and Summer with her mother. Autumn and Winter when with Hades.
Jack Frost is associated with Winter.
Basically, Penelope is Once’s version of Jack Frost.
Also Once loves its hashtags: #WickedIsComing #FrozenIsComing #WinterIsComing?
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Keeper of FelixGuys, keep in mind. Every interview that talked about RH’s dark past was meant for 417. They said his dark past would be shown in 417–so the story we got is what was the interviews meant. Doesn’t mean the writers can’t flesh it out *more* in later times, but for what we were told in interviews, the dark past is that he was not a thief who stole for others.
If that really was Robin’s “dark past” then that was such a huge letdown. A bit like how the “dirty work” Hook did for Pan was delivering cakes to Neverland. There better be more to it than that.
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Keeper of FelixYou know I have only three otps, Deanna/Will Riker (Star Trek:TNG), BatCat (DC universe), and Storm/Wolverine (DC Universe) those three have lasted for two decades. I simply love those pairings all of which has happen in some shape or form. I waited for Storm/Wolverine the longest tho. hahahha
Storm and Wolverine is Marvel not DC. They’re part of the X-Men.
My only ships left on TV are Shamy from TBBT, a couple where there really is nobody else in the world for them.
Shamy is my TBBT OTP. Their relationship has taken time to grow and although it might not be considered a “normal” relationship by the other characters, it is probably the relationship that will stand the test of time.
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Keeper of FelixThey had a lake by their home that would freeze over during the winter. The two of them would spend hours out there, but then one day Penelope fell through a thin patch of ice and died.
Does Penelope falling through the ice mean anything? Will believed it meant she died. Could she have somehow survived without his knowledge? It would’ve been interesting if Penelope falling through the ice had been linked back to Elsa or Ingrid, but alas, a missed opportunity.
This sounds a bit like how Jack Frost became Jack Frost in Rise of the guardians, only the roles are reversed and the little sister wasn’t saved.
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Keeper of FelixAt worst, I think Robin did something which led to somebody’s death rather than Robin directly causing their death.
You don’t think Robin could have killed anyone? He almost killed Regina the first time they met in Storybrooke when he thought she was the Wicked Witch. I totally think he has killed before. Might have been self defense, but he’s not afraid of violence. Even now.
Idk. I just don’t see Robin Hood as this super gallant guy. He has a code, but ultimately is a person who breaks the law for a living. What would that same person be willing to do without that code? I think thats the ‘dark past’.
I just don’t see Sean’s Robin as the killer type. To be honest, he’s a bit of a wimp, especially when it comes to making a difficult decision. Robin likes to hide behind his “code” when it suits him.
That’s not to say that Robin isn’t a good person or doesn’t have a good heart, he just seems like the type that would sit back and let other people do the morally dubious things for the greater good.
I’m not even sure if Robin’s ever killed anyone. At all. I think if someone close to him dies (like Marian did), even if he wasn’t directly responsible, we’ve seen he’s the kind of person who will blame himself for it.
I would think if he did actually kill someone, even if it was say self-defense, he would blame himself but it wouldn’t be his fault. Because again, self-defense. We see that even in our world with court cases.
I agree.
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Keeper of FelixIf that’s the complete dark history….then that has got to be the worst overhyped origin story since Maleficent’s. I’m trying to keep faith that there’s more to it…like before he married Marian.
I agree. I think the “dark past” is pre-Marian. However, I don’t think Robin has ever done something truly heinous either and that he was probably exaggerating a little bit. At worst, I think Robin did something which led to somebody’s death rather than Robin directly causing their death. As @obisgirl said, dark is relative.
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Keeper of FelixI don’t think that would be over the top dark. I think we’ve had worse on the show. Essentially it’s the Regina/Graham dynamic but with the genders reversed.
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Keeper of Felix(Still believes that WickedSisters should have been happening around the FrozenSisters time period, but oh well….the things Elsa and Anna could have taught Regina and Zelena.)
And speaking of Elsa….the crack ship FrozenFire was SO CLOSE!!!!!
I agree. FrozenSisters would’ve been a nice counterpoint to WickedSisters but the writers only care about the shiny, not in the actual character connections.
FrozenFire was so close! Not that Neal or Elsa would’ve actually been paired up in-show but the fact that they would’ve been alive in the same town would’ve been enough to sail that crackship.
And that’s all that matters right? That REGINA get her family. never mind the fact that three seasons ago, HENRY was enough for her. Her CHILD. the child that healed the hole in her heart. Oh no. Let’s give her her sister and her son and her love and her lovers son!
But GOD FORBID that Henry get his FATHER.
I agree. I think it would be interesting if the show delivered a family happy ending rather than a romantic one, particularly for Emma and Regina. But the show is probably going to end with everyone paired up with everyone else. Henry was Regina’s everything, up to and including 3A. 3B and 4A made the mistake of making Regina be all about Robin. I’ve enjoyed 4B Regina so far because she’s not all been about Robin (at least until last episode).
But I agree, they took away Neal, denying Henry of his father, whilst allowing all the villains to get their happy endings. They didn’t need SF together but they could’ve had them working together as a family unit which would’ve been a nice message to send that even if your parents aren’t together, they’re both still there for you.
First of all, please do not bring up the old Henry was enough for Regina because he was all about EMMA, and even manipulated Regina’s emotions to save EMMA! Regina had to fight like hell, get turned on by the heroes, backtrack on her redemption, get back on track, save the day multiple times, and even more just to gain her son’s attention, let alone his love.
Henry’s treatment of Regina in season 2 was very bratty and even extended to Emma when Neal came on the scene. However, his attitude did get better.
Zelena comes across to many, even myself, as a whiny brat who wants it all, but will have to realize that everything she didn’t get may have been the best thing for her. Is she wicked and done much much wrong? Heck yeah! Is she irredeemable? Heck no!
I disagree. I think Zelena is irredeemable at this point. She has no remorse or regret for what she’s done and she continues to do these terrible things all because Regina was born and kept by Cora.
Sorry about the #FrozenFire talk too, I blame @PriceofMagic for getting me attached to that crackship!
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Keeper of FelixDoes she? I mean…Regina is now taking Belle’s heart as a way to get leverage over Gold after he threatened Robin. That doesn’t sound like something a redeemed hero does (unless it’s with Belle’s blessing and full cooperation as a way to take down Gold). If you ask me, Robin and Regina deserve each other.
Good point. Let me change that to Regina before she does the thing she’s about to do deserves better!
1. I for one am conflicted with the whole Regina really killed Marian in the original timeline because it contradicts Robins “Marian’s death was MY fault.” But if she had killed her…Regina didn’t know Maid Marian was Robin Hood’s wife, in the words of Lana Parrilla:
Before I get into my reasons for this, I just had a thought: Does Robin actually know Regina killed Marian originally? Zelarian was the one that came back so she wouldn’t know what went down between Marian and Regina. Emma isn’t going to tattle on Regina either so wouldn’t know unless Regina told him?
I think my issue with this particular point is that it isn’t acknowledged by either Regina or Robin what Regina did to Marian. It’s just been brushed under the rug by the writers. At least have Regina express remorse or regret for what she did and then have Robin forgive her rather than make it look like Robin is happily jumping into bed with his wife’s murderer/would-be murderer.
2. Alright…How could Robin Hood get back into Storybrooke when Regina had already told him that once he left, there’d be no way to return. Despite Rumple telling Robin to go back, he had no way to do so! He was clinging onto something that was hurting him so much because he’d rather be with her, but he can’t go back…there was no way to get back to her, so he figured that he should follow her advice and let her go, and try his best to fall back in love with Marian.
If that was the idea then they needed to have Robin express those feelings. Instead, execution-wise, it had Rumple all but say “choose Regina” then had Robin go “Zelarian, I choose you!”. I find it so frustrating how this particular Robin is portrayed. It’s not Sean’s fault, it’s the way Robin is written and comes across as indecisive and sometimes a downright idiot.
So this episode did not destroy Robin’s Character, it only showed that sometimes having a Code comes with a terrible price that he had to pay.
Robin’s code was laughable this episode and not in a good way. He only has a code when it suits him to have a code. He hides behind the “code” so he doesn’t have to make any big decisions by himself.
Regina can’t get better than Robin Hood, the ONLY MAN to see past the Evil Queen Moniker, who never even flinched looking at her or mistreated her, or threw her past into her face like every other character on this show has done.
Regina has done some terrible things in the past, other characters aren’t going to like her for it. Regina shouldn’t expect other characters to just forgive her because she wants them too.
I would’ve like to have seen Robin acknowledge that Regina WAS the evil queen even though she’s not that person anymore. They didn’t need to let the distrust last long, in fact saving Roland could’ve been the thing to make Robin see that Regina was more than just the evil queen but they needed that little mistrust to begin with. Robin just being A-Okay with Regina from the start is what makes OQ a little unbelievable in my opinion.
Regina’s an Anti Hero…who does what needs to be done to protect her family. And he didn’t just threaten Robin, he’s trying to turn Emma dark, and as powerful as Emma is supposed to be, that would not be a good thing for anyone. And so it’s okay for Rumple to threaten Robin and Emma, but Regina can’t use Belle, Rumple’s only weakness, against him to stop it?
And what if Belle doesn’t consent to letting Regina use her heart as leverage…there would be nothing to stop Rumple! So if force is necessary, then so be it.
I hope Belle does consent because that won’t make it as bad. The issue is if Belle doesn’t consent. Belle is a person, not a pawn, and it’s the potential lack of disregard on Regina’s part towards Belle that’s the problem.The thing is, if Regina wants to show Rumple she means business, then she’s got to show Rumple she’s a very real danger to Belle. Obtaining Belle’s permission isn’t doing that.
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