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I have to disagree that this is a plot device. This makes sense to the characters. Regina care about Henry. Period. She’s growing into her feelings for the other characters, but would she really go around protecting everyone’s heart? No.
As far as Hook, who cares about Hook besides Emma? None of the magic users are his biggest fan. Who would protect his heart?
We don’t know if this Belle thing is true, but it would be interesting if Rumple didn’t protect her heart.
And Emma’s heart is protected.
I agree that Regina would protect Henry’s heart first and foremost then her own. I agree that neither Regina or Rumple care about Hook enough to protect his heart. However, Emma cares about Hook and Rumple cares about Belle, if there was a meaningful way to protect their hearts then why hasn’t Rumple or Emma used it or asked Regina to do it. It just seems odd that there is a way to protect the heart of your loved one from being ripped out of their chest, in a show where crushed heart is a common cause of death, and neither Rumple or Emma have thought to put this protection on Belle or Hook.
It’s a plot device in that it was used so Pan and Zelena couldn’t kill Henry or Regina respectively thus moving the plot forward but none of the other characters have used it because doing so would inhibit the plot as it is now.
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I bet they’re dancing to an instrumental possibly slowed down version of “Cruella de vil”
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Keeper of FelixThanks 🙂
Hook intends to come clean to Emma about Milah, it’s just a question of whether she finds out before he can tell her the truth or whether she hears it from him.
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Keeper of FelixQuestion: (I’m not looking to start an argument or anything, I just want a CSer opinion on this) I’m writing a fic (it’s not a ship-based romance fic because I am crap at writing romance and ships are not the focus, it’s kind of turned into a Henry fic surprisingly)anyway, Emma and Hook are in a relationship in it (they have been for months). However, they are having difficulties. Hook wants to take the relationship with Emma to the next level, ie start sleeping together, however Emma is extremely reluctant for reasons. Emma says it’s about Henry (but it’s not) but she won’t tell Hook the real reason.
Hook is getting frustrated by this and he does ask her if it is because she doesn’t love him anymore or if it’s because of the hook. Emma does reassure Hook that she loves him but this adds to Hook’s frustration because Emma is not telling him anything. Hook still turns up to support Emma at the hospital when Henry ends up there and he goes with Emma on a dangerous and risky mission to help rescue Henry even though it would mean his life is effectively in Rumple’s hands.
Without wanting to give too much away, during this mission, Milah reappears on the scene and is obviously still in love with Hook and doesn’t realise he’s moved on. When Hook and Emma get back from this mission, with Milah and a few others in tow, Hook again broaches the subject of sleeping together with Emma but Emma shuts him down again without saying why. Again this is frustrating for Hook because Emma is literally not giving him any clues as to what’s going on with her and he knows it’s not Henry, so Hook goes off to drown his sorrows. He gets drunk and he gets chatting to Milah, one thing leads to another and they sleep together.
Next morning, Hook obviously feels guilty about this because he does love Emma and he feels conflicted because it’s Milah so he confides in Tinkerbell who advises him to make a choice and not to string the two women along. Hook resolves to come clean to Emma about what happened with Milah (because, after a little bit of soul-searching, he chooses Emma and he doesn’t think it’s right to keep this secret from her plus the risk that Emma might find out another way which would be worse) However, during the conversation with Emma, before Hook can confess, Emma admits to Hook the reason why she didn’t want to sleep together (which has to do with her own personal insecurities). Emma then agrees that they should sleep together, and even suggests they do it right then. This makes Hook feel even more guilty about what he did and his courage fails him. Because he’s feeling so guilty, he rejects Emma’s advances which confuses Emma. Hook bails to try and come up with a new plan, again seeking advice from Tinkerbell.
Long story short, Emma finds out what Hook did (either through Hook admitting it or some other way before Hook can confess- I’ve not worked that part out yet) and is quite hurt and angry with him. Hook does tell Milah that he chooses Emma which upsets Milah which in turn get someone else angry with Hook.
I’ve not planned the resolution yet, I’m going to see which way the characters take it but it’s a choice of 3 options:
1. CS split up.
2. CS split up but there is hope of reconciliation.
3. CS resolve it somehow.What option do you think Emma would do?
I don’t want Hook to look like he’s pressurising Emma for sex and then getting it elsewhere because she won’t agree to it. I want it come across that it was a moment of weakness on his part (and it wasn’t just a random woman, it was Milah) and that he does feel guilty about it. However, I don’t want it to come across that it’s “Emma’s fault” that Hook slept with Milah just because she wouldn’t sleep with him and not tell him why.
What are your thoughts?
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Keeper of FelixSort of like Regina having Neal’s keys in the first place. There was a time I”d insist that offscreen Henry got the keys, and there were some heartfelt scenes that Regina and Henry had about Neal dying, and then when Robin was leaving with Henry saying “Hey take these..Neal would want Robin to be with his son, like he helped him get back to me.” but–no. They didn’t show it, so it didn’t happen.
Regina has everyone’s keys. We already knew that.
Regina has the keys of everyone in Storybrooke. Neal’s apartment is not in Storybrooke, therefore Regina should not have had his keys.
Also, can someone explain to me why Zelena is back? In order to bring her back, the writers had to do some pretty impressive — and seemingly badly executed — retconning to the past few seasons. The continuity of the show now looks like something that’s been hacked apart with a dull steak knife and then put back together with duct tape, super glue, and a lot of faith. (And now ambulating around, making vague inarticulate growling noises, and I think it’s trying to eat my brains, too). And honestly, for the life of me, I can’t understand why. What is the purpose of this exercise?
Zelena is back because the writers needed to fix OQ so Zelarian happened so that Robin could leave “Marian” for Regina without any backlash. They failed on all counts.
1. Regina still killed the original Marian in the original timeline. Zelena only switched places after CS had rescued Marian from Regina ordering her execution. Had the Marian Regina took not been the real Marian then this point wouldn’t have been as bad. This was the point they needed to fix in the OQ canon, and they fixed nothing!
2. Despite Rumple all but spelling it out for Robin that he should go back to Regina, Robin still made the decision to stick with Zelarian. Regina is second best again. This episode has absolutely destroyed Robin’s character in the worst way possible. Regina deserves better!
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Keeper of FelixPardon the naive question, but is anyone else perhaps struck by the incredible irony of a show allegedly about the irreplaceability of love and family to have one of its main supporting male characters and his kid not being able to recognize that their wife/mom has been replaced by a leprechaun… I mean wicked witch?
Well I am now
Does any one get why Zelena is seen in the mirror and not Marian? Does she have to avoid all reflective surfaces at all times?
I don’t think all mirrors show Zelarian’s true self, I think the mirror in the apartment was an artistic choice to remind the viewers that Marian is really Zelena and is making out with Robin to spite Regina. This episode was supposed to fix OQ with Zelarian but it’s only made it worse and more morally questionable.
Question: Where does Zelarian and Robin stand on the consent issue? Robin isn’t being “forced” to make out with Zelarian but he thinks he’s making out with Marian and wouldn’t have made out with Zelena if he’d known it was actually her?
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Keeper of Felix
I am thinking she gets BELLE’S permission to take her heart … BELLE will want to protect herself from RUMPLE who is her biggest weakness…. that would be the first SMART move on Belle’s part during 4B.
I disagree.
1. Rumple would never harm Belle deliberately. The only risk he poses to her is that she would be used by others as leverage against him.
2. Belle isn’t going to join Rumple’s team even if she does love him. (Although I think dark Belle would be an interesting storyline).
3. If Regina is aiming to use Belle as leverage against Rumple, then she wants him to think she poses a danger to Belle in order to make him co-operate. Asking Belle’s permission, and playing nice with Belle, isn’t going to give that impression. Rumple sees Regina on team heroes right now. Team heroes means Regina isn’t going to do anything to Belle. Therefore Regina is going to have to go rogue and just take Belle’s heart without asking. Even if she has no intention of harming Belle, she needs to keep up the illusion that Belle is at risk unless Rumple co-operates.
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Keeper of FelixWatch as that little trick is never brought up or referenced again. It was just a plot device to give reason for the Panry body switch instead of having Pan just take Henry’s heart.
Regina mentions in 3B that no one can control her through her heart because its protected.
Still a plot device to prolong the drama instead of the villains just using the hearts to get what they want. If the heart protection was any thing other than a plot device then the entirety of the core characters would be protected. The heart protection was only to stop Pan and Zelena from killing Henry and Regina respectively. If Hook’s heart was protected, 4A couldn’t have happened. If Belle’s heart was protected, Regina couldn’t use her as leverage against Rumple.
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Keeper of FelixTheory time: The Author is Cruella’s father. The Victoria Smurfit Character in the promo pics is mom. The mysterious stranger is Rumpel. Cruella is Alice’s mother. That’s why her younger self looks like Alice’s daughter. Madeline is someone else. Alice becomes the next author; it’s in her blood.
That’s crazy….. So crazy, it just might work o_o Cruella as Alice’s mother…. this could work I think. Maybe.
Alice’s mother is dead. We met her father in Wonderland and he remarried.
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Keeper of FelixYou’d think Rumpel would have protected Belle’s heart from being able to be taken. Regina did it to henry afterall.
Oh…good point
Watch as that little trick is never brought up or referenced again. It was just a plot device to give reason for the Panry body switch instead of having Pan just take Henry’s heart.
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