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Zombie apocalypse.
LOL
Are we talking Walking dead or 28 days/weeks Later (which coincidentally also featured Robert Carlyle).
Here’s a clip of 28 weeks later. (Warning, contains some swearing at the end.)
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Keeper of FelixJefferson?
Are they alive?
Are they currently on the show?All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixSomething I noticed about Henry’s age. Henry was 10 in season 1 and supposedly in the 4th grade (either it was said or MM was the 4th grade teacher). However, if Henry’s birthday was in August, that would make him the youngest in his year. Because of this, Henry couldn’t be in 4th grade, he’d have to be in 5th grade.
Since Henry was then 11 in season 2, that would put him in 6th grade. He was 12 in 3B, that would put him in 7th grade. Since Henry is now supposedly 13, that would put him in 8th grade which means Henry is going to be in high school soon if he isn’t in Junior high already.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixI’ll type something, click submit, then it sends me back to page 1 and doesn’t post what I wrote. I don’t know if it’s a length thing because shorter posts don’t seem to post whereas longer ones do. It’s intermittent but it only seems to be this thread that I have this problem.
Are they a regular?
Rumple?All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixTest. Does this thread act up for anyone else?
Are they male?
Are they magical?
Are they in Storybrooke?All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixLet’s compare Regina’s treatment of Graham to Hook’s assault on Belle. Regina was coercing Graham into an unwanted sexual relationship by magically controlling his heart. Many have rightly called this out as rape. However, because it’s so far removed from what we commonly construe as ‘rape’ (even though it IS rape), the outcry is far less than might be expected. Contrast that with Hook striking a chained up Belle across the face. This is something that is sadly all too relatable and many people reacted with strong disgust.
I think there are two things at play here.
1. Belle is dinky and hasn’t hurt a fly at this point, she is seen as very much an innocent. (If you want your audience to hate a character, you have them go after Belle).
2. There is a double standard when it comes to violence between a man and a woman. It’s a gender inequality towards men. Boys are taught from an early age that you “don’t hit girls” but they are not taught what to do if the girls hit them. Social pressure tells them it is wrong to hit a woman/girl therefore they are unable to defend themselves. Because of this and the whole societal expectation of the role of the man, many men feel helpless especially in cases of female on male abuse. It’s also not a coincidence that certain insults aimed at men play on this gender expectation of a man’s role eg telling a bloke who shows fear to “man up” or “be a man” whereas women don’t get told to “woman up” or “be a woman”.
If Regina and Graham’s genders had been reversed and likewise with Belle and Hook, people would be a lot more up in arms about Regina than they would be with Hook.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of Felix
I know Emma’s not seen Neal in a long time, but if she has seriously “moved on” with Hook, should she really be stroking Neal’s face like she is? Different strokes have different meanings eg a mother stroking their child’s face to comfort them, but the way Emma is stroking Neal’s face it looks like she is on the verge of kissing him.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixThat could be a really interesting way to go which means either it won’t happen or it would be done half arsed then completely forgotten about next season if not the episode after.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixI openly admit that I am not Hook’s biggest fan (though he is no longer my least favourite of the regulars: that honour goes to Henry with Emma in second place) however, I do think Hook had the potential to be one of the most memorable characters on the show (much like Spike from Buffy) but has suffered from inconsistency and rushed (and hypocritical) writing.
Hook’s introduction did not put him in a favourable light. He was shown to be a bully who picked on those weaker than him eg pre-dark one Rumple, but he also continued this streak for a good decade eg dark one Rumple who he thought was a lowly beggar.
Tallahassee was more favourable to Hook, it showed his fun side and his sense of humour whilst he was climbing the beanstalk with Emma. It is also probably the only episode where I can honestly say I liked Hook. He definitely had chemistry with Emma, not necessarily romantic chemistry, but there was definitely chemistry.
Issues began to arise with Hook when he went after Belle. First in the flashback where he hits her so hard and knocks her unconscious just because she can’t help him then is about to kill her until Regina stepped in. Then the entirety of the Outsider where he shoots Belle over the town line so she’ll lose her memories just because he can’t hurt Rumple physically. At no point did Hook treat Belle as an actual person.
At the end of season 2, Hook stole the magic bean that was meant to be an escape from a crumbling Storybrooke. I actually don’t fault him on this and will list this as one of the positive things he’s done because it meant the Charmings had to help save the town instead of just bailing and leaving the likes of RumBelle, Hansel and Gretel, Jefferson and Grace, etc to die. The “heroes” would’ve left children to die if it wasn’t for Hook.
Going from season 2 into season 3, things were going well for Hook. He’d put his vendetta against Rumple to one side in order to help Henry. He was doing this for Baelfire etc etc. Then CS reared its ugly head and Hook’s character development went out the window.
To cut a long story short, ever since season 3 Hook has been vering between to plotlines: CS and Revenge on Rumple. The problem is though, the two plotlines can’t work together. Either Hook has finaly let go of Milah thus enabling him to move on with Emma in which case he has no need to go after Rumple anymore, or Hook is still so cut up over Milah which is why he continues to antagonise Rumple that he can’t genuinely move on until he learns to let go of his revenge. He can’t have both because it’s contradictory but that’s what the writers seem to be doing and it just doesn’t work.
Hook deliberately antagonises Rumple in 4A by blackmailing him, yet cries foul when Rumple gets the upper hand. He referred to Milah, the great love of his life who he’d spent centries trying to avenge, as “soiled”. As dark one Hook, he was just vile. Yet he suffers no consequences or even acknowledgement of his actions. As DO Hook, either has has to be held accountable for his actions like Rumple is, or if Hook is given a free pass because of the “darkness” then RUmple needs to be given a free pass as well otherwise it’s double standards.
Hook has had positive moments. His scene in the library in 4B with Belle where he tells her that despite what Rumple did, RUmple did genuinely love her was one of my favourite moments of that episode. Hook didn’t have to say that but he did because it was the right thing to do even if it didn’t gain him anything. Hook’s best scenes are with Charming and Charming alone because Charming doesn’t take any of his crap and Hook respects that.
As has been pointed out, it seems a lot of Hook’s character development happens off screen but because we don’t see it, it looks like he’s just done a complete 180 for no reason other than to get in Emma’s pants.
CS is not good for either Emma or Hook, at least not how it is currently being written. The writers need to give Hook more scenes with other character who aren’t Emma otherwise it makes him look obsessive.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of Felix
