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ParticipantNot Robin Hood.
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ParticipantFelix seemed to know quite a lot about having your shadow ripped. Either he saw PP do it to someone or it was his own shadow. What if the “rrrriiiiiiippp” was the sound you hear as your shadow is ripped from you?
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ParticipantRegina needs to decide to reform because she wants to not because someone is pushing her too.
It’s like giving up cigarettes, you have to want to quit, otherwise all the support in the world isn’t going to help you.
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ParticipantI don’t think Regina should have to rely on someone to keep her on the path of good because that’s not fair on the other person. That’s a 24/7 job.
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ParticipantBut, in my opinion, putting Regina with someone that we would label “good” and thus turning her into this “good” person and negating her Evil Queen-ness almost makes her like Snow and Charming and it isn’t true to her character. Even when she was Regina in “Stable Boy” she was still somewhat defiant. She was willing to defy her mother, go against class and social norms. And yes, it was in the name of love, and thus commendable, but still wasn’t a compliant person. She wanted what she wanted. Snow, on the other hand, generally puts people before herself. That’s one of her character traits. Even when she wanted her mother to live, she couldn’t bring herself to kill another person. Snow was willing to die because she felt that she had ruined Regina’s life. Snow and Regina were vastly different even before all their own drama together. We can’t expect Regina to convert to being Snow, which is almost what is sounds like Phee is proposing, a sort of sweeping character development that takes her to saint-like status, such as Snow it.
I agree.
I just can’t get on the RegalHood ship not until 1. we find out what happened to Marian and 2. whether or not Tamara is RH’s daughter.
If Tamara is RH’s daughter then RegalHood is sunk for me.
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ParticipantThe way I see Regina and Daniel’s relationship is that when she was with him, that was the only time when she didn’t have to worry about any sort of pretense or power struggle. I think they were equals, because he’s the sort of person she was herself, and so with him, she could feel safe and free. If they coulda lived in a shack in the woods together and just ridden horses around all day, I think Regina would have been perfectly satisfied with life. Situations where Regina may have to tell him off in front of her mother were just a necessary part of keeping their secret, and they both understood that. It wasn’t a way for Regina to feel like she had power over him IMO.
What I mean is the power imbalance is there but Regina wasn’t in the relationship just because she thought she had power over Daniel. Daniel seemed to be Regina’s first romantic relationship so that kind of sets the standard for future relationships. Because of the social status difference, Regina was the one in power in that relationship.
Her relationship with Graham was most definitely about control. Dunno that she ever felt any genuine affection for him though, or expected him to feel any for her in return, (people without hearts simply aren’t capable of that). Having lost Daniel, she believed that the only way to guarantee to have a companion who could never be taken away was to enslave someone the way she did him. It wasn’t about wanting love IMO, it was just about not wanting to be alone. And when Emma threatened that, Regina lashed out because no one was supposed to be able to take away her pet, and if she couldn’t have him, neither could anyone else.
I think Regina felt something for Graham but I don’t think it was love. Graham must have had some sort of feeling for Regina, not love (don’t shoot me) but he continued to be with her even though she had his heart stored away and wasn’t in direct control of it, and he was unaware that she had his heart, so what did he think his feelings towards her was?
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ParticipantDon’t think Robin Hood’s the guy for Regina. Also don’t think Regina can fully give up magic especially if she can solve a problem using it. For example, If Henry really wanted the lead part in a school play and another kid was standing in his way, I could see Regina using magic to make the other kid a little bit ill so that Henry would get the part he wanted.
Also, Regina can’t escape Rumple now that they are both related to Henry. They may hate each other at times, but they also understand each other the most on the show and the Neverland experience will most likely strengthen their bond. Their two addicts together so neither one will be getting clean from magic anytime soon.
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ParticipantThe belt is actually a necklace that Tiny wears. It’s in “Tallahassee”. Here is a picture:
Now that you’ve said what it is, it’s surprisingly obvious that’s what it was since it’s still got the dried bean attached. Thanks for clearing the mystery up.
What time is it now Pacific wise, I’m in a different timezone that I think is 6 hours ahead but that could just be ET time.
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ParticipantI agree RumplesGirl. Regina will never ever be able to go back to the Regina she was before Daniel’s death. Regina has done so much, literally killed hundreds of people, that can’t just be wiped away with her saying “I want to be good now”.
Rumple, even with Belle’s help, can never fully go back to the “good” man he was before he became the dark one. Belle can help bring out the goodness in him but she can’t change his past and neither can he. What makes Rumple and Belle true love is that Belle knows Rumple is no saint but she accepts him for who he is, past and all. She inspires him to be the best person he can be.
Regina needs someone who doesn’t judge her on her past actions but on her present day ones. Cora’s abuse of Regina will affect Regina for the rest of her life even though Cora is dead.
Because Cora couldn’t love Regina without her heart, Regina grew up with the warped definition that love was obedience. Cora “loved” Regina by forcing her to be obedient and Regina did as Cora said because she “loved” her.
Regina/Daniel- There are slight elements of love=obedience with Daniel and Regina because of their difference social status with Daniel being of lower status than Regina. Because they were trying to keep their relationship secret, Daniel had to obey Regina in public both to keep up the illusion that there was nothing going on and also because otherwise Daniel would have no job. For Regina, if love=obedience then Daniel loved her so she loved him. Because of her higher social status, Regina had the power in the relationship. That must have been a great feeling for her, to be the one in control, in contrast to submission to Cora. That’s not to say Daniel didn’t have genuine feelings for Regina, he did, but their relationship was one of inequality where potentially Daniel could have lost his job if he didn’t keep Regina happy.
I can understand why Regina was so angry at Snow for what she did. Not only did Snow telling Cora result in Daniel’s death but it also meant that Regina lost that little bit of power she did have. She had to go back to being submissive to Cora and then to Leopold. She was in her own eyes powerless once again because of Snow. When Rumple showed up, he played on Regina’s feelings of powerlessness because he understood that feeling so he knew exactly what to say to manipulate Regina. He was building Regina up so that she would think his ideas were her ideas for example using the curse to transport everyone to Storybrooke.
Regina/Graham- This relationship is majorly love=obedience for Regina. She had control of Graham’s heart so he had to do what she wanted. Regina wanted to be loved, and since Graham obeyed her every whim, it meant he loved her and Regina was happy. However, when Emma came to town, Graham started disobeying her such as appointing Emma as his deputy without Regina’s say so. When Graham broke up with Regina, Regina was upset because once again she was not the one in control. She crushed Graham’s heart because he didn’t “love” her anymore and that was her way regaining control. Also crushing his heart may be Regina’s version of destroying photos of her ex-boyfriend and erasing him from her life.
RegalHood would never work because, other than the reasons I’ve listed in previous posts, Robin would not let Regina have the control she craves in the relationship.
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ParticipantI think Karen Gillan would make a good feisty Ariel.

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