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All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixHook has some sort of mommy issues because every woman he flirts with is a mother.
He told Rumple that he has had “many a man’s wife”.- Since there was no contraception in FTL, it is very likely that once a woman became a wife, she’d become a mother soon after.
Milah- Bae’s mother.
Emma- Henry’s mother.
Snow- Emma’s mother.
Cora- Regina’s mother (Hook attempted to flirt but Cora shot him down)
Regina- Henry’s motherThe only woman Hook hasn’t flirted with is Belle. This could be because of her connection and loyalty to Rumple or because she isn’t a mother.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of Felix@Surayya wrote:
@PriceofMagic wrote:
Regina isn’t going to harm Henry. She loves him and Emma knows this. With Cora gone, Storybrooke isn’t such a dangerous place. Tamara is keeping a low profile so she isn’t such an obvious danger to the other characters yet.
While I agree with you there- it’s only to a certain extent now, yes she loves him & I never used to think she’d harm him either, but is trying to find away to kill his entire bio family so she has him to herself, not harming him? (yes this could change again soon, but right now- this is where things stand).
I also disagree with you on how Emma feels, remember Emma has only ever seen Regina in moderate EQ mode once before (when Regina used magic on her, having been confronted about Archie) & she didn’t really take that too well then, telling her ‘she’d have nothing to do with Henry again’, now that was with magic being used against her, over a friend of the family being killed… Regina just stormed Gold’s with her mother, to take a magical dagger in order to effectively ‘rule’ them all, kill Snow, Charming & Emma (so Henry’s only family becomes Regina) & it was all right in front of her …. how is that a safe/healthy person for Henry to be around right now? (don’t get me wrong, I really like/love Regina as a character), but the fact is she has been involved in some horrific bad deeds, some of which are recent, that by real world standards would = locked up & never seeing your child again or even death. Add to this, Regina is in mourning over Cora, once that passes, she’ll have nothing left but to plan/act on getting Henry back- is it ok/safe for Henry- what if happened to get in the way again? Is the fact she would happily take out his entire bio family in the blink of an eye, if she could make Henry believe it wasn’t her ‘safe’ for Henry… the women is border line unhinged atm.
Regina would follow Henry back to FTL because she considers him to be her son. As we know “magic works differently here”. It is possible that both Regina and Rumple are limited in their magical capabilities whilst in Storybrooke whereas in FTL they can be full on. Would Emma really want to go against a full on magic evil queen in FTL? Also there would be other things in FTL for Emma to worry about than just Regina. Storybrooke is safer.
@PriceofMagic wrote:
Ogres could breed like rabbits. Even one ogre can cause enough problems. Would Emma really want to put Hnery in that sort of danger especially with his tendency to run off when he thinks he knows best?
I guess they could, however I’ll take ogres over an unhinged EQ any day- they are predictable & while strong, not smart or magic; she is unpredictable in her actions (if not intent), strong, smart & magical- so therefore by far the larger threat.
Also Henry’s tendency to run off is down to him being pushed out being a FTL child & being excluded from life altering decisions- it started when his mother (Regina), made him think he was crazy for thinking FTL was real, Regina again fostered his running off, by trying to force Emma/his bio mum (who Henry had tracked down himself), out of his life for ever, it reared up again when Charming failed to include Henry in any plans to find his mother & grandmother/beloved teacher & again when he was pushed aside & thought his bio family was out to kill his adopted mum- I can understand why he has a tendency to run off, but he’s not stupid! If there where ogres in SB forest, I doubt he’d have run off into it by himself 🙄Henry tried to blow up magic using dynamite, his stupidity is questionable at times. Also there may be times when it would be inappropriate to involve a child in some decisions and that’s what Henry is, a child. What’s he going to do, run off every time he’s not allowed to be involved in decision making? In Storybrooke, the environment won’t kill him, in FTL, it very well could. With the ogres, I can see Henry taking it upon himself, to be “a hero”, because he had the line about being fed up of reading about heroes and wanting to be one. Henry obviously isn’t stupid enough to take on something he doesn’t know how to fight, the problem comes when Henry thinks he knows how to deal with something. For example, the ogres. The only way to kill them is shooting them in the face. Say Henry knows that, he goes out, finds himself an ogre and attempts to shoot it in the face. He misses.That ogre isn’t going to just stand there and wait for Henry to get it right, it’s going to kill him. Maybe Henry doesn’t even get to the point of shooting at the ogre. Upon seeing it, Henry may freeze up with fear, in the way that children do, that ogre isn’t going to wait for Henry to get his act together. When Emma told him about all she encountered in FTL, Henry thought it was “awesome”, it certainly wasn’t “awesome” for Emma. Henry has only read about FTL in his book, he hasn’t experienced the “reality” of it.
@PriceofMagic wrote:
Emma spent her entire life in this world, it’s all she’s known. Her first experience of FTL land was a confusing and unpleasent one. I don’t blame her for being a little hesitant to uproot her entire life to a place she didn’t even like being. Not forgetting how Charming remembers FTL is a lot different to what Emma and Snow experienced. Snow doesn’t want to go back to FTL, she’s just using Emma as an excuse.
You missed my point- she doesn’t actually have an ‘entire life’ here to uproot- she already said that in S1; the only place she has ‘settled’ isn’t actually part of ‘our’ world, it is a place magically created to exist with-in our world & if they left, her ‘entire world’ pretty much leaves with them, sure she’d have Henry, but he has already voted for FTL not real world. Emma wants her family around her as much as Snow does (if not more! They are still all living in a 2 bedroom apartment), so I cant see her staying if Charming wants to leave, Henry wants to leave, Snow wants her family together & her doubts about leaving are centered on not being certain Emma ‘wants’ to go to FTL, given Emma wants her family to be together & Henry to grow up in a safe, loving environment (this she can do in both worlds in all honesty).
Yes it wasn’t the nicest introduction to FTL she could have possibly hoped for- but how has real world been any better? If anything it’s been worse for her:In 28yrs here, she has never had family, only felt loved/cared for once, never feeling a sense of belonging,kinship or friendship, only feeling abandoned, unworthy & unloved- her experiences here haven’t exactly been all sunshine & roses.
In her short stint in FTL, she quickly had a sense of family & felt loved/cared for (the moment with Snow in the castle), felt a sense of belonging (in what should have been her room), kinship/friendship (at 1st, of feeling like she was out of her depth with Aurora, then with Mulan, Aurora & Snow, by being able to constructively help with their mission to return to their family)…. So in that short time in FTL, she found all the things she’s being longing for in real world + pretty much everything that happened in FTL (other than the ogre, which I’ll be honest- Snow took down with little effort) was the result of Cora’s hand.
Besides, if they go back to FTL, I’m sure things would change a little as they built their kingdoms/land back up, incorporating some of the mod con’s they’ve come to enjoy here- like flushing toilets for instance 😉
Storybrooke is still “the real world”, even if it has magic. If Henry was kidnapped in Storybrooke, (so long as the kidnappers don’t use any magic beans) Emma would know Henry was still in Storybrooke because very few people can cross the town line without losing their memories. FTL is very vast. Someone with magic could kidnap Henry and take him to the otherside of FTL and it would take days for Emma to catch up to them, even longer if the magic kidnapper keeps moving around. Also, in Storybrooke, if Snow and Charming suddenly died, Emma would still be able to function without them. If Charming and Snow suddenly died in FTL, Emma would be up the creek without a paddle. The only reason Emma survived her last trip to FTL was because of Snow, without her Emma would’ve been killed by the ogre.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixToothfairy, you seem to have a preoccupation with Hook dying or Colin being unable to continue the role, even when there is nothing to suggest either scenarios- Why?
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of Felix@Surayya wrote:
I kind of understand their thinking with Emma’s conflict, to a point:
I get Emma maybe thinking twice about taking Henry to an ogre containing EF- but honestly, with Cora gone & Regina hell bent on going evil on everyone’s backsides & getting Henry back- FTL is by far the safest option for Henry right now (esp with Neal’s psycho ‘intended’ in town).
People don’t seem to have the same problems with killing off ogres as they do for humans, so those big blighters will be put back under control again soon enough anyway- it’s not like it hasn’t been done before & they’ve only had 2years to roam unchecked, so doubtful they’ll have reached their old ‘war time’ population levels in that short space of time- besides our world contains 10’s if not 100’s of thousands of killers, murders & monsters- I’d rather the dangerous monster you can see, than the one that hides in plain sight 😉Regina isn’t going to harm Henry. She loves him and Emma knows this. With Cora gone, Storybrooke isn’t such a dangerous place. Tamara is keeping a low profile so she isn’t such an obvious danger to the other characters yet.
Ogres could breed like rabbits. Even one ogre can cause enough problems. Would Emma really want to put Hnery in that sort of danger especially with his tendency to run off when he thinks he knows best?
I don’t understand the conflicted part for Emma herself, Emma’s family is from FTL, as others have pointed out Charming wants to return, Snow just wants to be with Emma, Emma wants Henry (& what’s best for him by extension), Henry wants all his family & has already stated he wants to go to FTL- I’m sure in Henry’s mind, he assumes Neal will follow.
Emma has never once mentioned friends for even people she cares about or care about her missing her- her only family is from FTL, all her friends are from FTL, even the place she now calls home is FTL transposed onto our world, which has become an extremely dangerous place to live in, given the people of our world’s reaction to ‘magical’ stuff- like ‘ET’, as Grumpy so eloquently puts it 😉 …. she has nothing in our world to stay for.
Emma spent her entire life in this world, it’s all she’s known. Her first experience of FTL land was a confusing and unpleasent one. I don’t blame her for being a little hesitant to uproot her entire life to a place she didn’t even like being. Not forgetting how Charming remembers FTL is a lot different to what Emma and Snow experienced. Snow doesn’t want to go back to FTL, she’s just using Emma as an excuse.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixIsn’t Peter going to be alluded to in the final episodes but not actually seen until season 3? Maybe Neal gets captured by the Lost Boys and they take him to their leader. Although we don’t see the leader, you have season 2 end with Neal saying “Hello Peter” or perhaps the Lost Boys take Neal to Wendy and she is the one who says “Hello Peter”
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Keeper of FelixI hope Nealfire isn’t Peter Pan. At the moment Neal’s character can go in any direction and be hooked up with any character. If he is Peter Pan, then his character becomes a lot more confined.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixAs Belle would say: We’ll fight for them. We’ll never stop fighting for them. 😆
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixI think Emma and MM were watching the weather on the TV in season 1 or they could have been listening to it on a radio. I think it was the episode with the storm and the dove.
I think Hook should be the one to see his Disney movie. Everyone else has probably seen theirs whilst they were cursed whereas Hook has been stuck in FTL.
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Keeper of Felix
