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All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixWhat if Whale’s “God complex” is actually because he is an actual god?
I think some of the “clues” we’ve been given aren’t actual clues at all. I believe Archie’s file on Whale on the untold stories thing does give us some proper clues whilst the singlebrooke dating video perhaps not so much.They’re going to want to keep Whale’s identity a secret until the reveal so they’re not going to be handing out clues like there’s no tomorrow. The general Once viewer probably won’t bother with the untold stories things but the Singlebrooke dating video may be more viewed. The more “fanatical oncers” are the ones more likely to do the untold stories so that would be the perfect place to hint at his identitiy.
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Keeper of Felix@hjbau wrote:
I disagree that anything from any book is fair game. I think they have to keep it in mythical realm. They can’t do like comic book characters. There has to be a line in the sand. And things like Dracula or Frankenstein seem to be silly and would cross the line, in my opinion.
I think Dracula could be done, as vampires originate from folk legends so it’s not like Frankenstein which originated from the book. I agree with you about the comic book characters, I don’t want to see Spiderman running around town.
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Keeper of Felix@Marilou wrote:
isn’t Regina the real antagonist in OUAT and Rumpel more like a Benjamin Linus (I play for my own side) type of guy?
I agree. Regina is set on revenge against Snow which immediately puts her into villain territory. Rumple plays both sides off against each other to suit his purposes. He helped Charming find Snow because he needed their true love for the curse and he needed them to have Emma. He helped Regina by giving her the dark curse and telling her how to cast it because he needed to get to a land without magic to find Baelfire. He is neither an ally of good or an ally of evil.
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Keeper of Felix@hjbau wrote:
I sort of think they should keep into the mythical realm as well and not get into the science arena. I don’t think Frankenstein fits with what they are doing here. I also think it would feel laughable and the show needs to keep itself from feeling that way.
Also i am not trying to be a jerk, but defibrillators do not start your heart beating when it stops, that is a tv thing, they actually can only work when your heart is out of rhythm and the shock can help your heart return to regular rhythm. If your heart is not beating then a defibrillator would do nothing.
I did not know that about defibrillators (I couldn’t even spell it properly) I’d only seen them used on tv so that’s why I thought they could restart the heart.
@TheGoldenKey wrote:
Werewolves are not fairy tale characters and they’ve incorporated them into the series. So why would Dr. Frankenstein be such a stretch? Frankenstein is part of Marvel Comics and Disney owns Marvel. They said we could possibly see Marvel characters showing up. It’s story book characters and not just fairy tale characters. Dr. Whale has a history with EQ. I’m sure EQ would love to have her father Henry & Daniel back.
I hope Marvel characters don’t show up outside of the comics Henry reads. Having Spiderman or Wolverine running around town would just kill the show for me. Also werewolves are more mythical than Frankenstein. Frankenstein came into existence with the book, werewolves and vampires existed in folk legends long before they were popularised.
@Phee wrote:
Regarding non-fairytale and/or more real world storybook characters, Kitsis and Horowitz confirmed that the nurse in the hospital dungeon was Nurse Ratched from One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest, a book set in a real world mental hospital, which was published in…*googling*…1962. So a character from a science fiction novel from the 1800s certainly wouldn’t be off limits.
True, but the nurse and the janitor or whoever he was probably won’t be seen again. They were a nice little nod to the book, but they weren’t important characters, any other character could have filled in for them.
Doctor Whale seems to be more important than they were. Also what if some of the clues we have about Whale’s identity are red herrings. We assume the name “Whale” has some significance to his identity but what if it doesn’t. “David Nolan” has no significance to Charming.
Another theory that occurred to me was what if Dr Whale is a greek god. They’ve already used Midas so they are not avoiding Greek mythology.
Maybe Hades, lord of the underworld?- As a doctor, his decisions could make the difference between life and death. He’d be a god therefore he would have “a god complex”. “Frames himself a victor in all conflicts”- death always wins- nobody can beat death.
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Keeper of FelixWhat episode did Henry first say he was 10? Was it it Price of Gold or was his age mentioned before then? I ask because Henry may have had a birthday off screen between the Pilot and Price of Gold. He has no friends and Regina wouldn’t tell Emma about it so it would be rather low key. If he is definitely 10 before finding Emma then Emma was lying when she said she had him at 18.
“Just got out of the system” doesn’t necessariliy mean she met Henry’s father the moment she left the system. I think some parts of the story she told Henry about his father were true such as coming to the diner where she worked. I think a couple of months passed between her leaving the system and meeting Henry’s father. I would say less than a year for Emma to consider herself as “just got out” but a few months for Emma to start getting her life together with a job.
I wonder if Henry’s birthday will be acknowledged in the first four episodes of season 2. Episode 5 would be Halloween so storywise that would have covered an entire year between Henry finding Emma and present day so Henry’s birthday must occur somewhere between that time.
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Keeper of FelixLike Gypsy said, the sentence of June 16 1996 may not relate to Emma’s crime. Also Emma could have been on the run before she was arrested so although she may have committed the crime in 1996, she may not have been arrested until a year or so later.
We know Emma was 18 when she gave birth to Henry, but she could have been 18 years and 7 months old, making her close to 19 but still 18 when she gave birth or she could have just turned 18.
If we base the show as starting in Fall 2011. 28 years ago would have Emma arriving in 1983. Add 18 years would have Henry born around late 2000/ early 2001.
Also the article was written by Sidney as a smear campaign so some details may be exaggerated.
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Keeper of FelixWhat I meant by “our” world is that he’s not from a land of magic or from a mythical place. He’s from a world that is very similar to ours albeit with some highly improbable occurences. Though through medical advances, sewing “different body pieces together” could be seen as organ transplants such as taking a kidney from one person and sticking it in another person. Bringing someone back to life “harnessing the power of a thunderstorm” whilst that is an exaggeration, when people go into cardiac arrest, they are given the defibulator to restart their hearts. The defibulator sends a jolt of electricity to restart their heart making them appear they have come back to life.
Frankenstein is still about science rather than actual magic.
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Keeper of Felix
