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All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixWHO??? GRAHAM? THE GUY EMMA KNOCKED OUT ON THE DATE? I CAN’T THINK OF WHO IT IS?
My guess is one of the “those with the darkest of souls” that Regina gathered for the meeting during the failed curse.
That was episode 2. My first thought was that it was someone who was just in the pilot. However, rereading it makes it sound like someone we met in the pilot and has been in further episodes but we’ve not seen in quite a while. Blue Fairy maybe?
A first meeting between two characters just may leave you a bit misty.
I think this will either be David and James, Milah and Emma or Milah and Henry.
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Keeper of FelixI don’t think the split season has worked in the sense that two arcs per season means that neither arc gets fleshed out properly before it’s then on to the next arc of the new season. It would’ve been much better if it had been one arc that was split in half. Either a) the first half ends with the villain’s victory and the second half is the heroes over coming their defeat or b) the heroes win the first half and the second half is the villain plotting their revenge. (The only arc I’m glad wasn’t longer was the Frozen arc).
Neverland would’ve benefitted greatly from being spread over more episodes especially as they would’ve had time to insert a little bit of Storybrooke into every episode so it wasn’t missed and would also break up the constant darkness. They could flesh out the Neverland characters more especially the Pan/Felix/Tinkerbell dynamic. Why was Felix so loyal to Pan? Why was Tinkerbell supposedly trusted by Pan? What was Tinkerbell up to on Neverland? etc. They could explore the Neverland backstory of Hook and Baelfire more. Neverland has so many unanswered questions and had so much potential that was not utilised because of lack of time.
Again the Oz arc had potential that was not utilised due to lack of time. Neal’s death should’ve been this big momentous occasion that had far reaching consequences especially as Rumple trying to find him was the very basis of the show to start with. As it was, his death was 315, his funeral was a scene in 316, then that was it. Neal’s death should’ve had an impact on the rest of the season and continuing into the seasons that followed. Instead the characters seemingly forgot about him after the funeral. Had Neal lived, whilst he may not have been important to the story of 3B or season 4, he would’ve really come into his own and shined in the Dark Swan arc of 5A. 5A was made for Neal and they screwed it up big time by killing him off in 3B.
Zelena was annoying in 3B. Coming off of Pan, the show needed a high quality villain and Zelena wasn’t it. She was bratty and it’s kind of hard to feel sorry for her when Rumple shivs her in the jail cell. 5A proves that Zelena can be fun and she was the highlight of that half season. Either that’s a damning review on the quality of 5A or 3B completely wasted the potential of Zelena, turning her into a cardboard villain.
Another less than favourable thing about 3B was the creation of OQ. It was too rushed. There was absolutely no reason why Robin would be so gung ho about Regina upon meeting her for the first time. She was the evil Queen as far as he knew. Whilst he may have started to develop feelings for her over the course of the missing year when he realised she wasn’t so bad, which we didn’t get to see- another criticism, the fact that the reason given for the attraction was “soulmates” was completely ridiculous. Instead of taking the time to SHOW us why Regina and Robin should be together, the writers are telling us they’re meant to be without taking the time to back up their claim. Robin and Regina’s first meeting leads to an unintentionally funny moment where Robbin helps Regina up but leaves a clearly heavily pregnant woman lying on the floor.
This season is when Snow’s character was assassinated and the assassination has only continued as the series has gone on. She was so dumb in 3B, she was demanding, she was just a general pain in the arse. 3A, she’s one track minded. She wants another baby because she didn’t get to play mommy to Emma. She tells Emma, her daughter with abandonment issues, that essentially she’s not good enough as a daughter because the relationship they have is not what Snow wanted. To put it bluntly, Snow became a condescending bitch in season 3.
3A was a lot better than 3B and kind of tied up the story started in season 1 despite the wasted potential and rushed storyline due to lack of time. 3A could’ve easily been a bittersweet series ending. 3B was where PLOT and SHINY started taking control over CHARACTER and SUBSTANCE and where the quality of the series started to go downhill.
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Keeper of FelixHad a really weird dream last night where Loki stole the avengers’ chocolate biscuits despite Thor warning him what would happen if he got caught, then he’s sat down eating them with Zelena whilst Zelena is trying to make moves on him because they both like the colour green.
Anyway, I think the show has come too far with it’s “CS is true love” mindset to suddenly change it to not being the case at the end and pretend that was the plan all along. They could’ve played it as “even “strong” women can find themselves in an unhealthy relationship” but they would’ve needed to make that point more clear through other characters reactions to the relationships. However, Snow is practically pushing Emma up the aisle with Hook so that’s not going to happen.
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Keeper of Felixif this is the single genuine male-male friendship we’ve seen on OUAT, what does THAT say about gender depictions–specifically masculinity–on this show?
I think it says that males can’t truly be friends without some ulterior motive. I think the show’s need for “strong women” has gone too far to the point that it is sexist to men. The men aren’t equal to the women, they’re attachments. They’re the damsels in distress.
The shows moral compass is screwed up, not just in terms of gender depictions but also in terms of being a parent vs romantic love. Roland used to be so important to Robin, now Roland is handed to whatever merry man is nearby whilst Robin goes galavanting off to be with Regina. Henry used to be important to both Emma and Regina, but they barely spend time with him because their lovers are more important.
That’s not to say that parents shouldn’t enjoy romantic love too but the show seems to be making it a choice between child vs lover and apparently lover wins.
Here’s how A&E seem to react when fans bring up concerns about questionable messages that the show is sending out.
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Keeper of FelixLeast favorite episode has to be Selfless, Brave, & True….
Now that I think about it! Did we ever find out why in Oz was a dragon with magic in our world when this is supposed to be the Land without Magic? Or even who the dragon was????!!! Gosh, I hope that wasn’t Maleficent’s baby daddy….
….though if it was then yay continuity
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Keeper of FelixNo because Henry was never part of the AU. Gold wanted a life where Bae died young, Emma and Neal essentially never met and never had Henry. Regina never remembers him. Henry was apart of any plan. Gold wanted his happy ending which was as a hero-ish figure, living with Belle. In the AU Rumple isn’t dying at all because in that AU he’s not the Dark One–never was.
I don’t think Rumple wanted a life where Bae died young. He originally wanted Bae there, but the author told him that he couldn’t undo death, so Rumple had it where he didn’t abandon Bae and unfortunately Bae was already dead in the AU
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Keeper of FelixI never really saw Pan and Felix having a mutual friendship. Felix was clearly loyal, but Pan is basically a cult leader. When your identity has been so robbed or changed by the presence of a charismatic cult leader persona, you’ll do anything. Look at Jonestown. Look at Waco. That’s what cult leaders are capable of. Even the young lost boy Regina and Emma caught and tried to tempt with the bar of chocolate had the same reaction as Felix: unwavering loyalty. Pan never asked about that boy, never cared. He just needed his followers.
I disagree. For the dark curse to work, Pan would’ve needed to sacrifice the heart of the thing he loved most which was Felix, anything less wouldn’t have worked eg Regina tried to sacrifice her horse but in the end had to sacrifice her father. Felix assumed the thing Pan loved most would be Rumple, his son, but Pan corrected him saying that love doesn’t have to be romance or family but can be loyalty and friendship. Loyalty and friendship go hand in hand. Also when Neal escaped from Felix and Felix returned to camp, he didn’t even have to say anything before Pan was there saying “I know that look. What happened?”. In Dark Hollow when Ariel left Neverland and Pan felt it, he was sat beside Felix and they were both sharpening sticks or something in silence. I really wish the Neverland characters had been fleshed out more as there are so many unanswered questions. I do think Pan and Felix’s friendship was a genuine one, however Pan will always put himself first when it comes down to the crunch and that’s what he did. It makes him a bad friend but that doesn’t mean the friendship wasn’t real.
The lost boy Emma and Regina caught, Devin I think, wasn’t loyal to Pan, he was afraid of him. He was one of the boys that turned on Pan when the Nevengers captured the camp.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixA male friendship that has been portrayed on the show albeit in not much detail is that of Pan and Felix. It was more of a background friendship but it was honest and genuine because it enabled Pan to use Felix’s heart to cast the dark curse and even gave Pan the line “love doesn’t have to be about romance or family. It can be loyalty and friendship” or something along those lines. For me, Pan and Felix were the most interesting dynamic of 3A (because it wasn’t romance led) and it was a shame we didn’t get more of them but there was a lot we didn’t get because of the compressed amount of episodes for 3A.
I think fandomwise, any two characters that share a scene, or are even on the same show, are going to be shipped one way or another. The only time they’re generally not is when they’re family but even then some people still do ship it. It would be ridiculous to avoid male friendships just because the writers don’t want them shipped together.
All magic comes with a price!
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