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Zelena went to OZ was killed by Dorothy there, ended in UW and SB can be explained by someone is pretending to be her, or she did a deal in UW for Hades in which he would let her leave and go back to SB to be with her daughter and if she help him destroy the SB gang
I reckon this is how it will go down. I’d also like to add that Belle probably takes baby greenbean to protect her from Zelena, which riles Zelena, who in turn takes or tries to take Belle’s baby when it is born as petty revenge.
Maybe the phonebox is like the one out of the matrix?
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Keeper of FelixI don’t know why the show doesn’t just hold a fan completion to design a poster for the season and then pick the best one? At least then we’d get a decent poster of higher quality.
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Keeper of FelixSo, about that poster… Am I the only one who found it riotously funny? I mean, that right there completes Hook’s saccharine Fabio-ization.
In light of this, I petition that we start calling him Hookio.or Fook
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Keeper of FelixI think Hades may be completely CGI or at the very least be partially CGI. The hair alone would need to be CGI because no way they could just set fire to a guy’s head.
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Keeper of FelixOnce did used to do promo pics for season 1 and 2. They did some for season 3 but used the crap ones instead of the better ones.Season 4 we only got character objects covered in ice instead of actual characters which reeked of cost cutting but for season 5 we got nothing outside JMo’s face white face with bright red lipstick and the apple.
The apple wouldn’t be so bad if Regina and Snowing, the characters with the actual link to the apple, were still central to the plot in their own right but Snowing have been reduced to purely being CS’s cheerleaders whilst Regina’s only purpose on the show is to give pep talks to Emma. Every character on this show is suffering and it is only through the quality of acting that any of them retain any sympathy from the audience.
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Keeper of FelixEmilie is filming! Belle does still exist on the show!
I’m guessing the first few episodes of 5B will be exclusively focussed on the Underworld and Finding Hook (aka Neverland and Finding Henry) before perhaps we get an episode on what’s going on in Storybrooke before refocussing on the Underworld lot before they and the story return to Storybrooke. In other words, 5B is following 3A for episode structure.
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Keeper of FelixIn this sense, it’s insidious — Bella offers a blank slate on which the audience can project itself
Ironically, as crap as Twilight is, making Bella a blank slate is quite an ingenius idea (it doesn’t work for the movies so much) but for the books (which fortunately I’ve never had the desire to read) it’s quite clever. By making Bella so blank, the young female reader would subconsciously insert themselves into that role and thus would care about Bella that much more and be invested in the success of that relationship. The problem comes in that Twilight’s readership have likely never been in a romantic relationship themselves and therefore their perception of what a relationship should be like is influenced by the media they consume such as books, television, films and magazines, not to mention real life situations eg a child growing up in a family whose parents have a healthy and loving marriage/relationship are likely to hold that as the standard on what a good relationship should be like.
Media influences people for better or for worse. That’s not to say that all media should be sanitised into a wholesome cookie-cutter image because it is actually through the “safe” exposure to dangerous situations (through media depicting violent/abusive scenarios, and real life experiences such as children climbing trees/jumping off things and falling down, that people learn what to do to protect themselves from such dangers in the future or what to do if they find themselves in such a situation. Most shows that depict a woman in an abusive relationship would do their best to show why she should get out the relationship and how she can do that.
The dangerousness of Once, Twilight and 50 shades of Grey is that they are showing an abusive relationship, but rather than depicting why the woman needs to get out of it, they are showing that she is enjoying it and that it should be idealised. For young impressionable viewers/readers this is their first exposure to a romantic scenario and thus their impression of what a relationship should be like.
Re- actor’s hotness. What’s funny about this is that I think there are other components in the mix here. For example, with something like 50 Shades of Gray, even if the male lead weren’t actually attractive, the story would still have its fans (say, if Christian Gray were played by James Spader). However, if he weren’t super wealthy, it would be immediately denounced as abusive and creepy. Imagine Christian Gray as an unsuccessful bum living in his mother’s basement. I suspect the story would lose much of its alleged hotness factor, and get a whole lot of ewwws!
I disagree. I think that as long as a guy is hot, people will still ship him with somebody. Even if he is an absolute arsehole, the female protagonist will be shipped with him because he’s misunderstood, he can change for the better with love, he just needs someone to care about him, etc etc. It’s a well known trope called “Draco in leather pants” and often goes hand in hand with “Ron the deatheater” ie the bad boy is woobified into “just needs love” whilst the more heroic character is vilified.
Tv tropes has more detail
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DracoInLeatherPants
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RonTheDeathEaterWith OUAT and Colin, the hot honorable pirate trope is of course nothing new. Actually, it’s a classic — think Rafael Sabatini’s Captain Blood series (for which I admittedly have a very soft spot). I mean, that was written in the 1920s, if I’m not mistaken. But as others have mentioned here already, that sort of “pirate with a heart of gold” is not in fact how Hook is written. He’s every bit not the thing he claims to be, yet all the other characters seem to be taking his self-centering activities and efforts at face value. To reprise the Jessica Jones analogy, he’s a Killgrave type who is successful at spinning his view of the story.
The problem with Hook is that the character hasn’t transitioned gradually from villain to hero like Regina but has just suddenly been switched. We’ve not seen him repent for his past misdeeds, and in current day he’s still spiteful toward Rumple just because he can (see 4A), we’re TOLD he’s redeemed himself but we’ve not been SHOWN it. Hook giving in to the dark side is supposed to be this tragic heartbreaking moment but it rings hollow because he’s not shown any genuine progress, DarkOne Hook is the real Hook coming out to play after having been forced to play nice for Emma.
Hook is always motivated by what he gets out of doing something, he wants Emma therefore he’ll do what it takes to get her affections. Notice how when he turns on her because she displeased him, he went for personal attacks. Emma has a hard time opening up to people, she let down her walls to Hook (and he likes her having walls so he can break them down, ie he likes having her emotionally depend on him and make her feel good about herself because he’s the only one she should allow to do that. Her family won’t understand like he does etc) and Hook uses that to keep her emotionally dependent on him.
Once is presenting CS as a good relationship that should be idealised and it’s not.
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Keeper of FelixAre they–
Aware of how inconsequential they’ll be to the show’s overall story outside of this arc?
Aware of how we’re going to destroy their seemingly peaceful existence all so we can get what we want without caring about the consequences to others?
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Keeper of FelixI think when Hook first started out, he had potential as a character. I disliked him because of his actions towards Rumple and his poor treatment of Belle, but overall he had potential. Tallahassee was a good episode for him.
However problems started to arise with his character when they tried to force him into a role that didn’t suit him. The CSF love triangle was the first terrible thing to befall Once, however love triangles are nothing new.
The thing is you get two different love triangles:
1. The good suitor and the bad suitor
2. Two good suitors and the loser is paired up with another character that turns out to be a better fit for them.
CSF couldn’t decide if it wanted to be 1 or 2 so the results were out of sync with expectations on what should’ve happened. In 1, Hook was obviously the bad suitor compared to Neal’s good suitor (I’ve not got time right now to go into depth on the breakdown of this but Neal was the good suitor). In 2, whoever didn’t end up with Emma should’ve been paired with someone else. However Once screwed up for both scenarios. In 1, Emma ended up with the bad suitor. In 2, Neal was killed off instead of being paired with someone else. It was a lose/lose situation.
Hook’s character is not designed to be a romantic lead. He’s not designed to be heroic. At best, he’s that shady character who gives his services to the highest bidder. Neither side can trust him, they just have to make sure they offer the highest price. The whole Milah situation could’ve given Hook some depth eg that he did love someone deeply once and got burned, however they screwed it up by, not only having Hook destroy a family to get what he wanted, but also then claiming that he would’ve happily have given Milah back as “soiled” if Rumple had fought. That right there completely annihilates the Hook/Milah romance.
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Keeper of Felix
