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Dylan playing Neal wouldn’t work. Dylan playing Baelfire would. Although the writers probably wouldn’t give it the emotional gravity it deserves, Henry meeting his teenaged father who has no idea who Henry is would be a real heartwrenching moment. Henry could do the things with Baelfire that he never got to do with Neal, all the while it would be tinged with sadness. Henry could tell Baelfire about Neal, about how he was a good kind man who died a hero, and Baelfire would have no idea that Henry was actually talking about him.
It could work, but chances are the writers would just mess it up.
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Keeper of FelixSomeone came up with a theory for why RumBelle have split up again.
Okay guys, I know we’re all a bit broken hearted, but here are my thoughts. I think Hook made a deal with Belle. She makes Rumple believe that she’s left him and in exchange, Hook promises to spare Rumple’s life.
Hear me out:
We all know that Hook is hell-bent on revenge, but we also know that he tends to prefer the kind that is long lasting suffering. He is also a Dark One, perfectly capable of killing a very mortal Rumple- and Belle knows this. So, he offers her a deal (in true Dark One fashion). She makes Rumple believe that she’s left him (complete with packing her stuff and leaving the shop, which is the spoiler from the finale that I saw filmed) and Hook guarantees Rumple’s safety in return. Hook has already acknowledged that Belle is Rumple’s heart. Losing her would devastate him (thus his revenge) plus perhaps make him doubt himself enough to stay out of the way of Hook’s Underworld plot, which we can assume is his larger focus.
I think we all agree that Belle was very much out of character during that well scene. Well, this could explain why. And that’s not to say that some of what she said isn’t valid or based on real truths and fears, but that perhaps she used them and exaggerated them because she knew he would believe them.
I mean, look at her reaction as she walks away:
http://33.media.tumblr.com/d590e567bd95510122d89abe056873af/tumblr_inline_nynqwx1UNL1tax8o6_540.gifShe looks hesitant, as if she’s trying to force herself to keep going, to not look back.
And perhaps, this scene…
http://33.media.tumblr.com/16c2fd0918d1ca008bfaaf11f18f95e5/tumblr_inline_nynqyuEkvG1tax8o6_500.gif…is more than meets the eye. See, we all know Belle is Rumple’s heart. But he is also hers. Maybe THAT is what she’s protecting: him. By walking away to keep him safe.
We know the show has pulled something similar with S1 Snowing.
However…
I can’t and won’t reveal, and I completely understand if anyone doesn’t buy this ……BUT (and I think it’s relatively positive)…this is essentially what I was told:
Emilie is very happy and healthy and she CAN work, and wants to work. Currently she’s not being written in (”not her choice”), but she hasn’t been told that she’s been written off.
What this tells me is that Belle’s absence is for storyline reasons. If Adam and Eddy had written her out of the season, they would have told her. It sounds like she’s not in at least the next two episodes – if she were, she’d have gotten a script. I’m going to hope that maybe she’ll be back for an episode or two after the new year, when they return to filming.
I also want to add, and THIS pisses me off, almost to the point where I wish Emilie would leave, even at the expense of Rumbelle:
All I can say is that it’s been over a month since she’s been in Vancouver. And that she’s not happy with being left out. Can’t say much else. Sorry! Hopefully she’ll be back on soon. Again- I’m saying this mostly so you (and others can believe or not) know that it’s not her choice to not be working, and that she’s completely healthy didn’t ask for any time off or anything like that to that effect.
Over a month? I believe that would be around episode 12 because we had that holiday break. It’s possible she MIGHT have filmed early on for that, but it’s also possible she hasn’t filmed since 5×11.
I honestly have NO idea how she still stays on the show; they disrespect her as an actress constantly. I’m glad she’s upset and I think Adam and Eddy are bastards, sorry, but not sorry. It wouldn’t surprise me if they did write her off and didn’t tell her.
This is from betsypaige who used to post here. She claims it’s from a reliable source but obviously make of it what you will.
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Keeper of FelixThe Doctor saying that there would never be a half-dalek hybrid because “the daleks would never allow it” is false because there already was one during the David Tennant run. True the daleks did kill it in the end but the point is there was one.
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Keeper of FelixTo start, Snow and Charming had this conversation about Emma and Hook’s relationship:
David: Emma was seconds away from destroying the darkness and ending this.
Snow: And Hook would have been dead. She chose love, David. And we would have done the same thing. We’d share one heart because we took the same kind of risk that Emma took. We save each other. That is what our family does. So have some faith in her.
David: I do. I just hope her faith in Hook is justified.Snow held up her own relationship with Charming as standard by which to measure the relationship Emma and Hook have.
That actually annoyed me when Snow delivered that line because it shows how selfish Snow can be. Emma destroying the darkness would’ve benefitted EVERYBODY, the CharmingMillsStilstkin clan and all the in EF/Camelot and all those in Storybrooke. But because Emma put her “love” above all, there is now a vicious dark one running around who doesn’t care about anyone, and that is everybody’s problem. Snow saying they would have done the same thing is a very selfish thing because Snow is supposed to be a queen, she is supposed to care about her subjects. If Snow faced a choice between saving 50 peasants or Charming, she would choose Charming because SHE couldn’t bear to be without him. Never mind that there would be 50 families grieving for the loss of a loved one, so long as Snow had HER true love and that HER family were okay, she doesn’t care about anyone else.
Colin has said that Hook is a sociopath
Interesting. Very interesting. Not only do you have the actor portraying this character describing him as a sociopath, but it’s factually proven that it’s almost impossible to have a healthy relationship with a sociopath because they lack the ability to feel real empathy and compassion for others. They can pretend in order to manipulate others but they’ll only do so until they get what they want at which point they will just toss the person aside because they’ve served their purpose.
The fact that Colin describes Hook as a sociopath is very telling.
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Keeper of FelixI never noticed before how Lana Parilla has a scar on her top lip but it was really noticeable in the scene between OQ and Zelena with the baby. How did she do it?
I think the writers have written themselves into a corner with DO Hook, CS going forward and to an extent RumBelle. There is nothing likeable about DO Hook (outside of the scene when he is challenging Rumple to a duel and is channelling DO Rumple), he’s nasty, he belittles Emma because she “failed” him, his line about Milah was just awful on so many levels, etc. All in all, this episode just showed how unhealthy and toxic CS is, and the only thing separating it from the “romance” that the writers like to pretend it is and the emotional abuse it actually is, is whether or not Hook is playing “nice”. Because if he isn’t, you see CS for what it really is without the mask of pretence, an abusive and unhealthy relationship that will only destroy Emma and Hook.
In regards to RumBelle, considering the very high probability that the writers will whitewash Hook’s actions as the dark one claiming “the darkness made him do it”, this creates a double standard. Belle is holding Rumple responsible for his DO actions yet if Hook is given a free pass, Rumple should be given one too. Likewise, if Rumple is held responsible, Hook should be too. The writers are in very real danger of making Belle look hypocritical if she’s willing to forgive Hook but not Rumple.
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Keeper of FelixLiked:
DO Clippy- Big dramatic moment, big dramatic music, all cut short with “hi”. Also to note, the darkness gives its hosts a complimentary black cloak.
Rumple acknowledging his past wrongs and that he’s hurt Belle in the past- This was a big step for Rumple, it’s a shame it didn’t end well.
Zelena gets some of the best one liners- “You’re just doing your job. Poorly, but you’re doing it. Kudos to you”. The nurse did seem a bit too aggressive though, if it were a real world hospital setting, eyebrows would be raised.
The acknowledgement that Zelena did do something terrible to Robin- It was about time that characters questionable actions were raised in-story rather than just ignored. If only the same would apply to people’s actions towards Belle.
The hint of a WickedSisters reconciliation- It might be in it’s early stages, and there is a long way to go, but it’s doable.
Regina almost punching Zelena but stopping herself- Not only was it such a natural reaction after the snide comment Zelena made to Robin, but it also shows just how far Regina’s come in her redemption that, despite provocation, she can walk away from a confrontation. EQ Reina would’ve turned Zelena to ashes.
Emma and Henry working together again- After a whole season of Emma seemingly ignoring Henry in favour of Hook, it’s nice to see mother and son spending time together again. However it does raise the question on the healthiness of CS when Emma spends all her time with Hook above any other important relationships in her life and the only time her son even gets a look in is when her and Hook are on the outs.
Hook fixing Rumple’s limp so that it is more of a fair fight- At least Hook extended that courtesy towards Rumple.
Mixed:
Hook as the Dark one- Whilst Hook is more interesting as the dark one than he has been throughout the last few seasons, the nasty stuff he is doing can’t all be chalked up to the darkness. Both Emma and Rumple were dark ones and they weren’t nearly as vicious towards others as Hook is. Hook is using the darkness as an excuse for acting out his own dark nature.
Hook challenging Rumple to a duel- whilst I liked that Hook was channelling DO Rumple from The Crocodile, the whole challenging Rumple to a duel does raise some issues. 1. Hook only challenged Rumple once he was in a stronger position than Rumple was (which is very reminiscent of his season 2 self) 2. The fact that Hook was so quick to challenge Rumple suggests that Hook has always wanted to have a go at Rumple but was just waiting until Rumple was at his weakest which again is very reminiscent of his season 2 self.
Henry’s line “The mom I knew wouldn’t keep things from me”- Whilst I get that Henry feels upset and betrayed that Emma didn’t let him in to what was going on in her head, at the same time, what parent tells their teenage child absolutely everything that is going on in their life. There are some things you don’t tell your children because they don’t need to know or it would be better if they didn’t know. Henry is not entitled to know everything that is going on.
Belle and Rumple breaking up (again)- whilst I can understand Belle wanting some space after everything she’s endured, it seems a bit cruel of her to turn up to the well, giving Rumple false hope of a reconciliation, only to crush him. Season 1,2,3 Belle wouldn’t have done that. If she didn’t turn up, the Rumple would’ve accepted that she didn’t want to be with him and would’ve left her alone which would’ve given Belle time to sort out her feelings.
Dark One Hook has an emo fringe- Please writers, don’t make Hook an emo.
Disliked:
Hook giving into the darkness so easily- He didn’t even try to fight it. It looked like he might try to fight it but the moment it offered him his revenge on Rumple, he was willing to accept it without hesitation.
Lancelot appears for 10 seconds only to be sent off and gone for the rest of the episode- Was there any point of Lancelot being there at all?
Snow saying that Emma did the right thing choosing to save Hook over destroying the darkness because Emma chose “love”- This is typical Snow selfishness. Instead of thinking of the many, so long as she and her family are okay she doesn’t care about anyone else. Nevermind the chaos or harm that a second dark one could cause to her friends and subjects, so long as Emma chose “love”, everything is just fine.
Hook accusing Emma of throwing him “back into the darkness” after he spent centuries quelling it- This is wrong, it’s not Emma’s fault Hook is so weak willed. The darkness was always there in Hook, he has to learn to overcome it himself instead of relying on other people to keep him “good”. If Hook is basing his capability to be either good or evil on whether or not Emma “fails” him, then that is not a healthy relationship for either of them to be in, especially Emma who is being emotionally blackmailed into being the “perfect” girlfriend because if she fails, the consequence is that Hook goes on a rampage of evil.
Hook deliberately belittling Emma and making her cry- There was no reason for him to do that other than he just wanted to be a jerk. Both Hook and Emma as dark ones showed kindness towards the people they love. So if Hook “loves” Emma, why is he being such an arsehole towards her? If he’s just prissy because of the manner in which she saved him, then what does that say about him, the fact that he’s more than willing to turn on Emma the moment something doesn’t go his way?
The loophole for casting the dark curse- The magnitude and ramifications of the original dark curse know seem trivial.
Hook referring to Milah as “soiled”- Despite the fact that is a real derogative term to refer to any woman, the fact that Hook refers to Milah, his first “true love” like that seriously raises some questions. Hook says he would’ve “returned” Milah to Rumple if Rumple had fought. 1. This implies that Hook considered Milah to be property that could just be taken and given back at a whim. 2. Hook would’ve sent Milah back to a life she wanted to escape just because he was done with her. 3. This completely throws Hook’s motivation to avenge Milah throughout season 2 into question.
Emma taking Hook’s memories so that he would the man he was and the man that loved her- Again, this throws the healthiness of CS into question because it implies that both Hook and Emma have to be a certain way for each other in order for the relationship to work.
Belle not being in the room to get her memories back- That’s a bit unfair that everyone else gets her memories back but Belle is excluded.
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Keeper of FelixJust discovered that from season 2 onwards, OUAT is classed as a “15” which means that anyone below that age isn’t supposed to watch it. This is a show that is on at 8pm when kids are still up. Why wasn’t it put on at a later time?
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Keeper of FelixIt’s not up to Emma to keep Hook on the straight and narrow. Hook has to take responsibility for his own actions.
As I’ve said before, if Hook’s actions get excused because “the darkness made him do it” then Rumple’s DO actions should be excused as well. If Rumple is held responsible for what he did as the DO, the Hook has to be held responsible as well.
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Keeper of Felix
