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"I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".
Great job @Jenny or @Mick, dont know what to call you, lol. Happy to see you here, even if is just for a while.
Now, a pretty thing, Sheldon our great Bazinga guy, explains Fandom /show age.
"I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".
This beautiful painting. And look the artist name, very ironic i must say.
"I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".
Found this online, but cannot find the main source.
I feel like once is becoming a popularity contest, they do what’s popular with the audience not what’s important for the characters and storyline. They killed off Neal because he wasn’t popular, they’re introducing Elsa in order to benefit from Frozen’s success, they sidelined Emma so that Regina could have light magic (total bs IMO), they’ve made Belle naive and ignorant in order to keep Rumbelle afloat etc.
"I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".
I read somethings online and just i need to say it, sorry if im going back to the past, but since the show spoilers for S4 are probably are starting soon, and when i see people online, saying that they want villains to comeback from death to have their redemption arc and have their second chance( this words really upset me now, every time i see people saying it), and when Neal is mentioned, people just say he is death, was is own fault, he got what he deserved, was karma, that death happens in real life, bla, bla,bla, that really makes me pissed, bc this i not real life, this is a tv show, so they cannot apply real life for a character and then fairy tale to others.
Many in the fandom, still call us names , because still think we are sad because of a ship, well i must tell you i am not, bc i think Neal deserved much more than Emma, so i must say no longer ship SF, i ship Neal with happiness. So you may wonder why im still here, because i refuse to give up the persons i meet here and bc i dont want to leave @RG alone, since she done so many thing for the thread and for the forum, so im here bc of the friendship and respect. Ok, so now going back to the issue.
Many of non SF shipers or non Neal/Bae fans( we know you read the thread, is ok, is a pleasure to receive you here and be able to help you pass the day, because we have the most interesting thread in the forum, well, i must say in all the forums, actually), but moving on, like i was saying, i think i can speak for the majority of us, when i say is not bc of a ship we are mad, since if we got the chance of getting Neal back, and leave SF behind, i think none of us would be really upset of letting SF go as long Neal would be happy, bc like i said before Neal/Bae happiness is very important to us, i dare saying his happiness represents the show values, and with his very stupid death, the values were lost.
Going back to the issue of JMO words, we werent mad bc she said that SF probably would not happen, we were mad bc she hinted that Neal as a villain and bc his only options were to get Emma or death, and the fact that she said that he needed to die to redeem himself from his sins, was bc of that we were mad, he was so much more than a love interest, he had so much to give the story in terms of storylines, he had a relation to develop with Henry, Rumple, Belle and others outside Emma, so when someone comes and say that he didnt deserved a happy ending, while we have villains that did very bad things having theirs, is really annoying, and perturbing.
So all this, to put a tumblr post( the post may mention a ship we all know about, but is impossible not to talk about Neal and not mention CS and SF, that will always come in conversations, and will always be a cause of division bwt parts of the fandom and unfortunately involves bad words from both parts).
This is the sad story of Baelfire( yes, he is also Neal, just in case many dont remenber or choose not to, in order to hate neal with no guilt).This is why we are sad and angry, bc this boy deserved a happy ending, even if not with emma.
So here it is : A summary of Baelfire’s life.
– Branded as the coward’s son at birth.
– Grows up for a few years watching his mother verbally abuse his father and being left at home all alone while his mother goes off to drink and his father works
– Mother disappears; forced to believe she was kidnapped and killed horrifically
– Lives in a time of fear with his father, as his friends are being called to the fronts for the Ogre Wars. Knows he will soon be called too. Witnesses more ridiculing of his father.
– Father become the Dark One to protect him, witnesses his father brutally kill some soldiers and innocent people in front of his face. Blames himself for his father’s ruthlessness.
– Isolated from peers because they are all afraid of his father.
– Gets ready to leave everything he knows to have a fresh start with his father. Abandoned at portal instead. Enters world that is entirely alien to him.
– Slaves in awful workhouses where it is indicated that he is mistreated. Starved and homeless, he wanders about the streets of Victorian England.
– Experiences six months of happiness among the Darlings, then sacrifices himself to a demonic shadow and a land of magic (which he fears) in order to save them.
– Rescued by pirate, learns skills, feels some happiness, but later finds out he has been manipulated the entire time.
– Asks to leave the ship and is instead betrayed to Pan. Sleeps fearfully in a cave for 250 years.
– Finally escapes, but is forced to become a homeless thief because he has no skills to acquire meaningful employment in this world.
– Meets Emma, finally feels happy for the first time in 250 years.
– Forced to leave Emma to give her her best chance at breaking the curse and finding her family.
– Guilt-ridden for having left her. Does his best to ensure that she’ll be okay after her jail time. Supposed guardian angel steals money and fails to uphold his promise to take care of her.
– Ten years later, still believing Emma would never forgive him, he meets another woman and quickly becomes engaged to her in an attempt to move on with his life. Does not know she is manipulating him.
– Curse breaks, but does not go to find Emma because he does not think she’ll forgive him.
– Forced to face his father when he and Emma come to Manhattan. Find out he has a son. Guilt-ridden for not having been there for his son. Drops everything in his life to be there for him.
– Father gets stabbed by pirate, has to battle with evil witches to save his life.
– Finds out his fiancee has been manipulating him (LIKE PRETTY MUCH EVERY OTHER PERSON IN HIS LIFE) and is shot. Nearly dies.
– Wakes up, immediately thinks of love and son, fights like heck to save them in Neverland, the place of his nightmares.
– Drugged, caged. Son does not even find out what he had done to try to save him.
– Woman he loves tells him she wishes he had died so that she would not have to confront her pain. Accepts these hurtful words without excuses.
– Finds out that the pirate who had betrayed him before and had run off with his mom now lusts for the woman he loves.
– Discovers that the family he’d sacrificed himself for was held captive by Pan anyway, so his sacrifice was for naught.
– Gives lovely speech to son who actually isn’t his son.
– More conflict. Separated from love and son AGAIN. Retains hope he will see both once more (but doesn’t get to do so).
– Fights hard to devise a plan to get back to them. Ends up having to exchange his life to save his father’s.
– Meanwhile, the pirate gets to deliver the memory potion to Emma.
– Finally gets to see the woman he loves again. Denied the opportunity to see his son though. Guilt-ridden for having missed yet another year of his son’s life.
– Dies.
– Meanwhile the pirate who had betrayed him now gets to bond with his son and snog the woman he loved.Conclusions: If you’ve been good pretty much all your life in spite of all the crap that happened to you, you’re just going to end up dying without having experienced much happiness. Your abusers will get your happy ending. So don’t bother being kind-hearted and selfless. This is a world in which manipulation and deceit are the keys to success.
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http://ariyah-v.tumblr.com/post/89611731559/a-summary-of-baelfires-life
"I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".
OK, not SF or ouat related, but i think we need sweet things, so a very beautiful thing.
Just look at the baby face, totally impressed by the dog.
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"I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".
You know im starting to think that the reason why they wanted Jamie , was to bring back Graham, this way would be like a obstacle for OQ, bc of the whole Graham/Regina and a obstacle for CS, because of Emma/Graham, the new triangle, for one or both ships.
"I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".
"I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".
There’s so much that could go wrong with the Marian/Robin/Regina triangle if it isn’t treated in the correct manner.
Yes and we all know that A&E always treat triangles in the correct manner, so no worries right…
Yeah, the fans dont need to worry, because A&E will do to Marian what they did to Neal.
"I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".
