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having just read all the tweets/spoilers from the Wondercon for 318…*sigh* Zelena is basically dangling Neal in front of Rumple to let her plan go through. But we all know that she probably won’t succeed. So basically putting Neal in front of us when we all know we won’t actually get him back
Just great, so they really hate us that much, not only mock but now try to buy us with something they said wont happen that is neal returning, they are cruel, God never saw a show that like to hurt part of their audience, like the ouat. This show is like a torture for Sfers and Neal fans.
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RainbowParticipantWe had more Rumple/Henry moments before they knew they were related then anytime afterward. It’s like now that we know they’re related let’s not acknowledge any kind of relationship. I’ve complained elsewhere about this but Emma is really not a favorite of my anymore. She’s on my list. Not only that her not wanting “live in the past” comment but the fact that she doesn’t want Henry anywhere near his real family. She yearned all her life for a family and if she gets her way she’s going to deny that to her son. Yes, his father’s gone, but he still has another mother, a paternal grandfather and maternal grandparents. It’s the selfish and easy decision for Emma to make. She make think she’s making if for Henry because he’s “happy” but the truth is it’s the easy decision for her. Does Maine have grandparents rights laws? PA has them. A parent cannot keep a child from their grandparents without just cause. I know a couple who recently sued their ex-DIL and got visitation rights. Can you imagine Snowing going to court 😛 Maybe Rumple will have to draw up the contracts since he was a lawyer. (Oh, I’m getting a wacko fanfic idea in a Bizzaro world of Storybrooke where everyone hates Emma for her choices )
Oh, now i want to see that ff. what have you done to me.
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RainbowParticipantWell the wicked is coming was filmed during 316 episode, adam said that MRJ was filming some reshoot in March, maybe for 315, so i guess that they may have cross paths on studio during those reshoots,can i say that if is to keep Neal dead, just keep him dead, bc will be to painful to see him in some sort of FB, or ghost thing( like talking with Henry, or with Rumple or even with Hook and Emma) that would even be worst, and i dont think they will bring him to kill him again, so i guess what im saying is that i dont have hope to see him again this season or the next, and you know what, if is not to see him again for good, i prefer not to see him at all again.
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RainbowParticipantunless she didnt aged bc she was already on the EF when Cora was there, in that case she was save during 28 years.
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RainbowParticipantBefore 316 when Walsh was revealed to be the Wizard, I sorta thought that monkeys could fly between realms. But if Walsh is really just a man who was turned into a monkey, then maybe not.
It still speaks (to me) to a larger plan to keep Emma distracted and away from Storybrooke. I just had a thought though, how did Zelena know about Emma at all? Maybe from Walsh’s magic video floor? Somehow she would have had to have know about The Savior and how dangerous Emma could be to her plan. I kind of sort of wonder if Maybe Zelena tortured it out of Neal if he and Rumple ever switched at some point back in her captivity in the EF. Doubtful, but it just came to my mind.
Well the Original Curse had to have affected Oz because Zelena didn’t age for those 28 years. So…(thinking out loud) For 10 years BEFORE the Curse Zelena saw Snow and Charming meet, Rumple make the TL potion with their hair, put a drop of that potion onto the parchment of the Curse. If Zelena is as clever as she says then she deduced that Emma would break Regina’s curse. But here’s a big flaw: Rumple never told *anyone* (including Belle) that he was looking for his son. No one even knew he had a son! So how would she know that Neal was Baelfire when she didn’t even know that Baelfire was a person. So at some point, was she watching August and Neal in “Tallahassee” and the typewriter scene? And if she’s watching them all, then she’d know everything. Like, it seems she’s been watching the DVDs of ONCE. She knows because she has “spies?” (lame) But how much does that magic mirror show? Shows the past but how far. Are there limits? Because she seems to be underestimating Emma’s powers but she should have seen Cora try to take Emma’s heart and failed. And if she saw Hook and Emma kiss in NL and Emma’s confession in the caves, then why does she think Neal and Emma are TL (when we can’t even convince the rest of the fandom ,post death!) And if she has been watching all along then she’d know that Neal would never do what he did and neither would Belle which means her entire plan is flawed in that she’s expecting people to act in ways they’ve never acted before. And why didn’t she have a stronger reaction to Emma showing up in town? And why not just kill Emma when Walsh was with her? Or curse Walsh’s lips becuase they kissed a lot, right? Why do I have so many questions
I think some of those questions about emma, snow, rumple, regina and neal/bae can be anwser by two names aurora and Philip. Aurora also meet hook and cora, she could have said that hook was always flirting with emma.
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RainbowParticipantRandom 4am pondering…and I don’t even know if I buy it myself, but now that it’s in my head I need to put it out there or I’ll never get to sleep. LOL I dunno if I’m convinced that Zelena wanted Neal in particular to use the Key, or if she wouldn’t have minded if Belle did it, but let’s say she did want it to be Neal, because she wanted him out of the way. She’s now gone and cursed Hook’s kiss, and she knows how bad Hook wants to kiss Emma, and how much he’d want to prevent her family being killed, so she’s probably banking on it happening. If it DOES happen, that kiss would effectively be cursing Emma to be powerless. If her TL were still around, a kiss from him would break Emma’s curse and she’d have her powers back. And that’s why Zelena wanted Neal to use the Key, so he wouldn’t be around. How she could have known that they were TL at that point in time, they’ve now set her up to be all knowing of everything that happens everywhere, so let’s just say she had spies in NL, if not in our world. In related ponderings, I’m now wondering if maybe it WAS Zelena who sent Hook to get Emma (though Hook may not have been aware it was Zelena). That theory has never made much sense to me, and I still think she’s crazy to have wanted Emma to get her memories back and return to SB, but perhaps she decided that even Emma without her memories was a loose canon who might someday come after her, so better to draw her in and eliminate her. Also, the only way to get Neal and Rumple separated, to have Rumple’s mind clear and useful, was for Emma’s magic to be in town. And if Emma’s magic was around to separate them, then Neal would be eliminated once and for all, and that brings us back to Zelena wanting to curse Emma’s powers away and for there to be no way of that curse being broken. And then if it comes out that it WAS Zelena who sent Hook, thus making him feel responsible for some of the crap that’s happened, that could be another motivating factor for a heroic, redemptive, potentially sacrificial act to make up for having helped the enemy (even if he did so unknowingly, but I wonder about that bit, just because he’s so clearly hiding something major).
Wow, that is a great thought Phee really is, i guess if i trust the trolls i would say that your idea makes sense, however since on past interviews A/E hinted that we could find out who was Emma TL until the end of the season, and with neal dead dead they cannot proof anything, i guess they will go down the road of forgetting everything, will make emma kiss hook, she wont be powerless and will show them as TL, that is what i think they will go. Unfortunatelly, i really belive that Neal is dead and wont be coming back, maybe, and just maybe, in some twist that wont be explain, they can bring Bae with Dylan on the part in the present( because i think they wont go show any more fb of young bae, bc that would be a time that the GA would see that rumple should be with his son, but he is dead), they may even make a larger twist and make henry , emma and hook son, who knows, and this way Bae and Henry can be just friends and they can even bring Wendy and show her as Bae TL. But since i think this would confuse the GA, dont even think that will happen. I think that maybe we may see some memories of Henry and Rumple about neal( like we saw when neal told emma about august on 214), but even that will be confusing to GA. That is the reason why no one mentioned Neal/Bae again, they want the regular viewer to forget that Neal/Bae ever existed on ouat world, that is why if they continue on Sb for S4, i dont expect to see the Bug anymore and the necklace will gone, put on a box or drop on the sea, bc she now has hook so she doesnt need a memory of neal. Is sad, i know, but i dont have any hope of having a surprise.
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RainbowParticipantJust saw the sneak peak 2, and OMG, the characters keep being ooc every episode that passes, this is obvious that after 315, they no longer know what to do with the story, i mean heroes asking for forgiveness to villains snow asking forgiveness to regina bc she killed cora, villains calling heroes villains, this is totally like 1000% ooc, this show doesnt make sense or has a story anymore, this is not even the case of rewritting a new show, forgetting everything behind, this is a case of bad writing point.
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RainbowParticipantYeah, agree with RG, the money became more important than the story, in resume they sold themselfs, and probably is why the silence thing between cast, like is also a ABC imposition in order not to speak about Neal/Bae or MRJ.This made me thought about a song a friend sent me.
"I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".
RainbowParticipantjust saw this online:
http://heartthrobinmills.tumblr.com/post/83033717334/what-makes-it-so-absurd-and-makes-me-so-angry
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RainbowParticipantThe problem with the show now, in this season, goes back to 301 in Regina and Hook talk, if villains deserve happy endings, they decided to show this season, that yes, they deserve but for that, the heroes have to become ooc to the point where we hate them, and the villians are heroes that we are supposed to love, this season reminds me of the animation movie shrek 4, when the villains get happy endings and the heroes get crap lives and suffering, i almost thought that for this season they decided to leave Disney and went with Dreamwork, becuase nothing on this season fits, and is not in this part 2, in 305, emma left regina take a teen heart, the whole dreamshade thing, and the story behind Rumple potion, that he was following lacey and making potions, while not trying to make amends with his son?Regina that for me was the most constant on part 1, is now like a teen girl that gets the popular boy, this is not the evil queen we know, belle that was shown last year as a fighter and love for books, this year doesnt look for books, is open to use magic, would be more open to rumple suffering and neal death and nothing( on the last epi with ariel was like nothing happened to neal), and other things, that are to big to say them all.
The sad thing is that neal/bae will never be mentioned,( i mean he did what he did for henry and emma, one doesnt remenber him and the other simply act like is normal that people die on her arms, and like she never had any connection to neal, like he was a stranger) guess alone in live means also alone in death.
"I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".
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