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And the excuse about being a villain might be used on season 2/flashback, and the excuse about the darkness might be used in 5A, but you can’t excuse the fact he lied in 317 about helping Ariel (which again was forgotten and weren’t addressed), you can’t excuse the fact that instead of doing the right thing and tell Belle about the fake dagger, he decided to blackmail Rumple on her expense and the apprentice he put in the hat (yet again he wasn’t confronted, yet again he admitted but it ment nothing cause no one heard it and everyone blamed Rumple).
Well lets not forget the Will thing, Hook beat him and threated him, and that was when he was already with Emma, and no, people cant talk about the HAND curse which was not. In fact Will is a thing that shows for me at least why Cs is so toxic and how Hook character influence Emma, bc the S1 Emma and im not talking about the walls part, im talking about the justice person, that defended the innocents against the bad guys, would never send Will to jail just bc he ended her date, or would just give him almost nothing to eat while he was there, this only happened after the Cs thing. In fact Will was the only character to say that Hook didnt cared about Henry, he was just using him to get Emma, so obvious when he got hate from Cs fans ha had to be cut.
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Which is a shame cause bringing a character to a confrontation about the bad things they did creates great scenes and great drama (e.g. Emma and Neal bar scene in 214). Characters can have flaws, characters can do make mistakes, that’s what makes them interesting. But there is no point if they are not confronted about it, everything is forgotten and everyone is happy. Redemption is not just forget about the past and doing good things, it’s about atonement, making amends and earning forgiveness
See this is where the Neal hate comes, bc with everyone else they show the abuser side, and im not calling Neal abuser, but im saying that on Neal and Emma case, they showed only Emma side, reason why Neal is so hated, bc to the fans he is an abuser, they never showed Neal side, Adam said that Neal didnt called the police and that bad things would happen if they ended together, but they never shown, Neal not calling the police, or the bad things that could ahev happen, or how was Neal life after leaving Emma, that is why on oncers minds, what Neal did to Emma was worst than Regina or Hook or even Rumple, or Zelena did as villains, in this case they were only focus on the “victim” side and worst they let the fans believe that bc they no longer have to worried about Neal character.
"I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".
Let’s see if this is not cut, is not the first time Adam releases a script tease that ends cut.
who is she talking about? Maybe the nuns are telling her that she is no longer important to take care of the kids and they are the new babysitters of the arc.
Also since most spoilers said that Emilie left van after 511 and didn’t filmed 512, maybe this was add later, since appears they keep adding things after filming the episode,in the miracle case Neal appears, maybe she is talking with Neal and his warning was for belle, that would make sense, again if by some miracle that happen, that mrj was in Van when Emilie was back there to film with her, maybe he is one that tells her she is pregnant, lol. I know this last option Makes no sense, the nuns one make more sense.
"I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".
Well, Matt is having confllict of interests, bc he works with A&E on their new show, Yvette appears she is rude to every fan she interacts in all shows she likes and doesnt agree with her. Let also not forget leanne, Natalie, Jim, Kirstin and others all bad examples of reporters that align with bullies of ouat fandom against “the haters”.
Moreover, the fact that they never defended MRJ when he got all the hate and when those horrible rumors about him were made up as well as how they don’t defend Lana really disgust me. These are actors that has been working for you and they suffer because you can’t stand up against that group in the fandom and call them out on their bad behavior. I just have no respect for these guys and anyone who enables them to continue with this.
Agree, like i said before, is not the story that upsets me, is the real life people and how they treat others. Just now i was re-reading a TV line gos article made by Matt around the TCA time and there was a comment there, that said that even tho the story looked good, she/he was not fan of the actors, especially MRJ ( since ouat) bc he is a bad actor, i mean, really they actually hate an actor bc he the character he played on the previous project was in the middle of their ship. I even said, when GoS premieres if these things repeat, i know he wont say anything, but i will tweet adam to control his fans.
"I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".
This is a post that i saw on a girl called KiKi on tumblr, she says some good things, was answer to some other post on tumblr, here , is about how media and some actors from outside the ouat cast, actually support the bullies by encouraging them, this was about a TV line article where someone was talking bad of Rumple and matt agreed with that person and even answered someone to not make any more Rumbelle questions.
This is, sadly, a pretty explicit example of exactly why the fandom is the way it is and why the CSers/Hook stans have become such a huge problem.
The people with influence let them. Beyond that, they even encourage them. It starts with Kitsowitz, in particular AH, who only gives consistent attention to one group while ignoring most others, and who responds to criticism with childishness. His favoritism toward CSers and his silence toward their behavior enables and encourages them.
And that bleeds over into the people like Mitovich and Yvette Nicole Brown. People who technically aren’t involved with the production of the show, but are involved in it in a peripheral way, and whose position or “fame” gives them influence. In reality, they’re little more than fans themselves, but their position elevates them. So like the rest of the CSers/Hook stans, they take their cues from Kitsowitz. (Though considering the behavior some of these people, like YNB, display in other fandoms where the writers aren’t quite so encouraging to bullies, she’d behave the same way regardless). Dismiss those who criticize. Dismiss those who have problems with canon. Blatantly insult those who don’t agree with you.
The CSers/Hook stans see that. They see the other groups and fans being dismissed by the writers. They see the other groups and fans being dismissed and bullied by these “big name” fans of influence. And they get it into their heads that it’s okay, that this is the way people should be treated. And they follow the lead. And then Kitsowitz and these fans of influence see it, and either ignore it, as Kitsowitz does, or encourage and take part, as people like YNB and Mitovitch have done.
"I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".
I dont like this reporter very much mostly bc she is very anti neal and very pro SQ, but her articles are in some way funny http://www.bustle.com/articles/140102-once-upon-a-time-season-5b-could-save-someone-from-the-underworld-but-will-it-be
I thought that report actually sounded positive towards Neal.
Yeah on this one, but she did a previous one where she called him jerk, for dating a minor and that send emma to jail pregnant, but in this case, like most SQ fans, if no SQ, bwt Hook and Neal they prefer Neal.
"I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".
I dont like this reporter very much mostly bc she is very anti neal and very pro SQ, but her articles are in some way funny
"I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".
So the show is showing more about OZ this season than actually showed at the arc that was all about Oz? okay then, i will say 2 things and many of you will say im wrong bc of the love that Adam and eddy have for Bex, but just saying , Zelena will die for real this season or she will stay behind with Hades and before that she will make amends with Regina and will ask her to take care of her daughter bc she wants her to have the best chance and a family and the baby will be called Zelena or Cora.
"I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".
Is there anything you can tease about the Underworld on Once Upon a Time? — Tanya
First, did you see this? Second, though I’ve actually been to the Underworld myself, I’ll let Josh Dallas take this one. “It’s a place that, once they get there, they’re going to discover that possibly some of these people can be saved and brought out of there, because maybe they’re misplaced in this world,” Dallas says. “We’re going to meet some people down there that maybe you don’t expect or you haven’t seen in quite a while — maybe a family member of David’s we might see down there. There is definitely a particular person down there for David that he’s going to come across, and Mary Margaret will come across that person too.” (Hint: The answer can be found in the recent Hot Seat.)Wait, does he mean people can be saved, in the sense of saving their souls so that they can move on to a better place, like Elysium or heaven or whatever is ouat version of these places? Or he actually means save save, like bringing them home to SB? While the first one makes sense, the second doesn’t make sense at all, especially bc so far there are characters that only appeared in one epi and others that won’t even appear and I know of at least 2 characters that won’t be saved, mostly bc they are not even there, oh god, I’m even scared of the reason they will give for them not to be there, but then again, it fits the show, villains and bad people need a second chance, while good people simply moved on and don’t deserve a second chance at all. So I hope they mean the first option, and not literally save and bring people to SB.
About the othe thing, wonder if 519 epi, besides being about 2 sisters is also not about 2 brothers that meet for the 1st time in UW.
"I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".
So is everyone back in SB now? Do I even want to know how that happened? Obviously the purple BTS screen is Oz (flashback) but with everyone filming together (apparently??) I take it Mulan and Ruby made it to SB–with Dorothy in their wake? *rubs head*
Once they filmed in SB again, we will see if they are still in UW SB or real SB. But it doesn’t seem like it, bc of ruby clothes,those clothes appeared that she was in EF and ended in the underworld, is like zelena and belle, maybe portal, maybe some other magical stuff there were spoiler pics that said ruby was with them at the UW cemetery, they filmed in that cemetery not the usual SB one, to show probably difference of place from real SB to UW SB, also still no hades centric, that I totally think will have to happen before they leave,I mean, they need some sad hades story before they leave UW how he was abandoned by his family and friends and some past love,I even bet that 520′ Jane epi is a hades centric where maybe they defeat him, that can be called Hades or God of the Underworld and 521 is about finding way to go back home with hook or with half of people from the UW and the final is all about the new villain, how is a super bad person, like they never faced before, bla, bla,bla.
"I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".
