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Rainbow
ParticipantI saw someone posting a interesting theory about this online, the person was saying that this is the music name, that probably was used in 319 when Neal send the warning to Hook and that Mark keeps re- using old songs from past seasons, since no more soundtracks from the show were released, so this is just the song name, because Mark would not change the song title , just because will be used in another season, so the tune is the same, the name has to keep being the same. So can simply means this is a song name and not that Neal is not back, Mark is just using that song composed for 319.
I think this is actually a interesting theory and probably the thing that will happen, bc lets be real, why would they want to keep a secret of Neal cameo in epi 100 , when so many other characters are coming back? In fact revealing that fact could make them gain viewers, so if this was true and Neal would appear even if in one scene, they would only gain, so no reason to keep it a surprise during so long.
But something tells me if not today or tomorrow, on Wednesday i would almost bet Matt M from Tv line, will have a article where MRJ says will say something about this, or he wont be appearing in ouat, or that he will be or even in worst case scenario( bc brings doubt) he will say “never say never” , which for Oncers that means “yeah i will comeback to ouat”.
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Rainbow
ParticipantI still say is Dylan, or snowing baby from the future( i know doesnt make sense but is ouat after all), or some old scene never used that was cut from Neal or like @Thewatcher said on another thread they recast Neal, in fact crack theory they keep saying hook will be a diferent person, maybe Neal in UW looks like Hook, hahahaha.
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Rainbow
ParticipantI suspect that the alleged “leak” is nothing more than a promotional stunt, released in anticipation of MRJ’s other promotional work for GoS etc. Whether on purpose or coincidental, as MRJ’s projects circulate on social media, a leak like this will produce some hashtags that connect MRJ and OUAT and that parasitically ride on the coat-tails of him promoting his other projects. Is it false advertisement and probably just vacuous click-bait? You bet. But this wouldn’t be the first time this happens with OUAT.
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Yeah, OUAT loves to use the ex cast menbers projects to get publicity. Also, i still need full confirmation, but i think some of the media reviewers for OUAT will end being the same ones to GoS, example, Matt M, and if these same reviewers that review OUAT end reviewing GOS we all know that at least on Gos articles some Neal mentions may happen, comparing Neal and Gil, which means free publicity to ouat. Lets say Wednesday afternoon will be fun to see, especially bc MRJ was the one cast menber that left ouat without having many interviews or having a goodbye interview , having inclusive to be him tweeting online explaining the dead of his own character, bc the writers were to scared to talk about that themselves, so having him on a room full of hundreds media people will be interesting to see if any OUAT questions appear.
Another interesting thisng to follow is The finest hours world premiere party on 25th January , where u can only see with inviations, will be fun to see if anyone OUAT related goes there and mentions MRJ later, i mean is after all a Disney movie.
"I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".
Rainbow
ParticipantRobbie is there and he is on NBC
There’s a difference though. Robbie was done with Heroes Reborn when he shot for OUAT, or near enough that it didn’t matter. GOS hasn’t even aired yet and NBC is just now going to start ramping up their hype for it. Also, Heroes Reborn was sold as a one-off continuation of a franchise that everyone knew wasn’t really getting a second season or anything therefore Robbie is not tied to NBC for anything other than the 13 episode Heroes Reborn arc.
Well like i said before, Heroes is a NBC production the contracts are done with them, in GOS case yes NBC is the airing network, but the cast contracts are Sony related, in fact all post production is being made by Sony and Sony even has a PR and marketing team for GOS, that is the same from Outlander, and the Goldbergs, etc, so in that case all cast is link to Sony not NBC. But like i also said before i dont want OUAT drama involved with GOS, I want Oncers far away from Silencers, really like a galaxy away of them, that is why i hope in last option is Dylan and not MRJ.
"I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".
Rainbow
ParticipantI have no idea why anyone would think this is nice. Yeah, it’s bait, but of the worst cruel kind. So Neal’s true love and Neal’s father and Neal’s son just so happen to run into him in the Underworld and then what–leave him there? Are just like “hey thanks for the warning, we gotta go save a pirate who we deem more important than you?” Why does that make any sense? Why is that nice? Are you simply satisfied with a brief glimpse of a character so viciously taken from us? Because if that’s all you need, then go watch Manhattan or Second Star to the Right or Ariel. Malarkey. This isn’t nice. It’s cruel. It’s not about having any kinds of hope dashed because I’ve never had any but I wanted MRJ to stay away from this travesty of a show that treated him and his character so appallingly; that wasted every single chance it had with the poetic story of Neal and Emma, Neal and Rumple, and Neal and Henry. That threw away all its heart for a pirate in eyeliner. This is just a way for A and E to say “see! We remember Neal!” and pat themselves on the back for ingenuity, never mind how hurtful, malicious, and morally repugnant it is to the fans and to the narrative.
In other news: we’re getting lax about spoiler in this thread lately. Tag them, guys. Images, discussion, whatever.Sad thing it worked, this was their intention, BAIT, im seing all over Tumblr people saying that they dont see the show since 315 or they didnt intend to see the episode 512, and now they will see it to see Neal.
@TheWatcher, If this ends being true, lets see if u still say is nice when the scene is nothing more than CS blessings.Also very telling that this “leaked” which i think was with intention, this sunday beginning of the week, that Game of silence will start promotion, that MRJ will be in a room with more than 200 media people to talk about GoS. Not to mention that The Finest Hours will premiere in 3 weeks and is a Disney movie and according to producers, the casting was made my Disney and MRJ is the big villain in the boat( check pic bellow). You have to notice that there is a pattern, everytime something major happens in MRJ life with publicity OUAT releases something Neal related, like to take attention of other possible projects MRj may have.
"I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".
Rainbow
ParticipantWould NBC even be willing to let MRJ do this? Yes, yes, yes I know that we’ve gotten other cable actors to come over temporarily (like Walsh) but NBC and ABC are direct, blood thirsty competition. I’m still thinking voiceover of some sort.
Robbie is there and he is on NBC, like i said before, in worst case scenario he would be guest star he wouldnt be joining regular cast of OUAT, actors can be guest stars in other shows, especially bc in GOS case doesnt depend of NBC, the contracts will be with Sony, totally diferent from when Jamie Chung was in NBC and even RObbie bc Believe and Heroes were/are NBC 100% productions.
But like i said or is Dylan or is Snowing baby from the future."I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".
Rainbow
ParticipantI do admit that I find the “TO BE SHOT” part to be slightly curious, like, is it something that hadn’t been shot yet due to actor unavailability, so it’s gotta be added in last minute? But, I’m certainly not gonna get any hopes *twitch* up, because it probably means something completely different.
I hope not , now that GoS will start promotion with a panel at TCAs i dont need OUAT drama in the way of GoS. Like i said, that fan was maybe right, Dylan will be playing Neal in UW
But then again in Tumblr, that is going crazy with this possible spoiler, some fans are saying that Lana said in some convention in November, that epi 512 would have a big and surprise Guest star and that the scenes would be very emotional, i still hope that has nothing to do with Neal.
That is a good observation. It would be similar to Merlin’s scene from “The Dark Swan.” According to Elliot Knight, it wasn’t originally filmed with the rest of the episode, nor was it even in the initial script. Though with this supposed Neal scene, it might have been in the script all along, and they just needed to schedule around MRJ’s availability.
But in Merlin case was diferent bc the actor filmed this when he was filming the other episodes, he didnt went to vancouver just to film a 10 secs scene, like i said before, if really is about Neal, maybe is Dylan or in worst case scenario, this is like that Merlin message in 5A in a certain way a nod to SW holograms scenes, didnt merida talked with her father like that?In this last case the scene can even be filmed in LA, no need other cast menbers.
"I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".
Rainbow
ParticipantThe episode’s music is scored fairly late in production. Often times a mere few weeks before it airs. I recall Mark talking about working on 412’s score around the same time last year.
Thanks, i knew was the last thing to be worked in a episode, but thought that he would start sooner the music score for this episode.
"I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".
Rainbow
ParticipantOr who knows, perhaps Neal was recasted.
HAHAHAHA.
You just won the internet with this.
"I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".
Rainbow
ParticipantNow in a serious tone, is this a song or scene title?who knew, maybe that fan was right Dylan may be playing Neal in the UW
Also, shouldnt all music from 512 be ready now?and why says, to shoot and some december date, they didnt filmed 512 in december or did they?
"I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".
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