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Rainbow
ParticipantMerry Christmas everyone!!
NO! NO! NO!!! H— NO! Leave Ingrid in Heaven with her sisters…the lady finally found peace, leave her be! DO NOT DRAG ELIZABETH MITCHELL BACK INTO THIS!
Dont worry @WR when they say Never say never they dont mean Yes, they mean No, but we have to bait Elizabeth and some other actor who i wont mention, bc they are not known enough by the GA like Seb or Jamie, since everyone knows that they have many projects and are big names now to appear in ouat, meaning fans can be bait with these ones, so yeah, them saying never say never but is the same as if they said no especially bc they say now that they wont be in UW all arc, so no time other characters appear, but of course that can be just a decoy, i mean if they will show Oz and real SB and EF, so yeah they may be on UW until end of season, bc other places will be shown as well.
But i guess is that by the time the show returns in March, bc always we know what happens months before, we will know how the season will end an we will know who is back or not.
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Rainbow
ParticipantBut is that “worse” than death? I mean, in Beetlejucie they had the whole “Death for the dead thing”:
And that seems unpleasant, clearly something to be avoided, possibly worse than dying and is of course, eternal. But…eternal oblivion….Nothingness forever. No memory, no feeling, no knowing…. I mean… Perhaps this is my opinion, but is that really “worse” than death. I’d say an eternity of pain, torture, and hellfire is a fate worse than death because you are aware you are experiencing it. Idk.
And really, whats the point of the people in the underworld still being able to die?????? Isn’t the whole point of the realm of death is that your dead??? You mean to tell me in the OUAT-verse, I can’t even rest in piece because I will run the risk of dying again? Seriosuly. The Underworld has Cruella…and the blind witch and Pan. You mean if I got killed by them In life I can be doubled killed by them in death too?
I ponder so many things from OUAT and this is one of the ones that is making me grind my teeth. Death. Sheesh, like just imagine how awkard that must be to die twice. Super death.Emma: Hey, Cora. Have you seen Neal around? He died awhile after you.
Cora: Oh yeah, nice young man. He got the measles and died again. Sorry.@ Watcher i laugh so hard at your post, only in ouat, i guess this actually confirms it, DEAD IS NOT DEAD anymore bc even after dead you can die again, so in order for you to be really dead u have to die a second time in the UW and this time even if u still have unfinish business with other people that wont save you. LOL.
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Rainbow
ParticipantInteresting. That might solve the Graham and Nealfire conundrum without going down the “heaven” route
Actually that will only make more questions, bc means that they died in SB and then something happened to them in UW that made them die again after they were already dead, probably killed by someone and so they no longer exist?, that will create a even more rant than there already exists and will mak them explain to much, they can use that rule for the SB gang, that if they die there they wont be able to go back, but doesnt explain the ones that are already dead, especially bc that is not hell,that appears to be a place where they keep with their lifes and work, etc.
Of course that their moving on, may not be Heaven, but reencarnation, and they may also say graham and neal, this if they even mention them, moved on and their souls reencarnated. Although back on 512 filming Robbie tweeted some pics that he later edited the subtitle, that was champs elysees( french form for elysium fields)and he was in some forest on this pics, so they may have heaven, so this thing that somehow Graham and neal died again and Pan and Cora may end in elysium is a bit absurd, but in the end, these theories are to much for ouat, bc they may end changing story in the middle of the arc and in ouat tradition, no answers will be given and neal or graham wont even be mentioned and UW rules wont be explained.
"I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".
Rainbow
ParticipantOk, maybe i got it wrong and with me being tired of the holidays to many things to do, so probably my brain got frozen, but did they just said that the Dead people in the UW could be killed and die even tho they are dead already? Im sorry, but if i got it right, they are not even trying anymore to actually make sense.
That’s kinda what it sounds like, and that there’s something worse than death. My guess is the “something worse” is the inability to move on.
So my brain is not that bad as i thought, i was. IF the worst it can happens is to stay in this UW, so means next arc, besides making good character moving on bc of some finish issues deals, they will probably redeem some past villains( one per epi, in 512 maybe Pan and Cora) and send them maybe to i will call it Elysium and say they are now nice people. So conclusion is they are not even trying anymore, bc the fact that they stated that dead people can be killed and die again, is just for me, just go along and simply wait for the show to run his course, so not even worth trying to come out with something less no sense than usual.
"I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".
Rainbow
ParticipantOk, maybe i got it wrong and with me being tired of the holidays to many things to do, so probably my brain got frozen, but did they just said that the Dead people in the UW could be killed and die even tho they are dead already? Im sorry, but if i got it right, they are not even trying anymore to actually make sense.
"I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".
Rainbow
ParticipantMerry Christmas
http://www.123greetings.com/events/christmas/merry_christmas/merry_christmas_video_xmas1.html
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December 23, 2015 at 8:10 am in reply to: EW 12/21 – Once Upon a Time Reveals Season 5B's Fiery Villain #314392Rainbow
ParticipantThis is a good theory….it’d definetly explain how Cora got the position as Mayor of the Underworld if her and Hades were already close friends/perhaps lovers. Boy, Cora sure did get around didn’t she.
Is a good theory, but A&E already said that they will do their own twist, and will not be following much myth( like we saw by the UW that is not really UW, i also see Hades being a sort of Mr. Gold of UW even with same types of clothes, and i think disney connection is the Hercules and meg that wont stay long). I actually see more Cruella trying to get Hades as a “friend” especially if it gives her chance to kill someone and she is the one that will be seen in more episodes, but i dont think she will be Hades wife, in fact i think ouat version of wont have a Persephone version and sad thing the great theories that fans have will be just that theories, Hades will be just like Merida, a side character while other characters related to the regular cast will come and go and wont be seen much, but will be only mentioned by the other dead characters of how bad he is.
I think their jobs( Cora and Pan) are connected to their children jobs in SB, just like Pan has Rumple pawn shop.
Also there is no reports of Barbara filming since 512 just like Robbie and they say in the article that is connected to one character, which i think they mean one of regular ones and since Rumple was the one that died already, so i see him being “the character” and something tells me that conection will be shown in episode that will have milah, i have some idea that their connection may be even before Milah left Rumple and will connect to Bae, im getting the vibe they will say Bae was always meant to die early, bc somehow he may have been sick almost dying as a kid and somehow Rumple and Milah made a deal with hades to save Bae, reason why there some fbs scene with them, young Bae and some character called Frendake the Healer, that would show that somehow hades ended calling for Bae soul and he was never meant to have a long life and why Neal is not on UW bc Hades made him move on or some other weird explanation, i know is a crack theory, but we all know when comes to Neal ( not trying to bring any type of ships wars or discussion about him) they always end making some weird explanations that make no sense, like the one “he died in real world” and bla, bla, bla. So yeah, i sense Rumple and Hades connection being explained in 514. In second option to this connection will be Hook and his ring, how he made a deal with hades in order to survive long to have a chance to kill Rumple.
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December 21, 2015 at 9:21 pm in reply to: EW 12/21 – Once Upon a Time Reveals Season 5B's Fiery Villain #314373Rainbow
ParticipantHave to say im laughing a lot at this “…will face their toughest opponent yet”. Like really, how many times they said this already and the villains always ended defeated without many effort, episodes before the season ends, in fact that was what they said about Emma in S5A , she was the most powerfull villain they even encounted bc she was Do and savior and look where that ended. So let me guess Hades, will have mom or dad issues, or some kid that doesnt care about him, or some love interest that doesnt love him, that will be solve by mid arc 5b in some maybe 2 centrics. So i guess one of the tags for 5B is #hadesneverfails. And yeah, the connection is most likely with Rumple, since he was the one that was DO for most time, knowns everyone in villain world, already died before and makes deals with everyone, most likely he made some deal with Hades in the past.
"I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".
Rainbow
ParticipantJust saw Star wars The force awakens, and OMG, im not like a super fan, saw and have all the movies, but was never a fan that was all exited about oh so have to see this or i will die, but now, i have to say, wow, so want to know what will happen on the next episodes.
"I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".
Rainbow
ParticipantWouldn’t it be ironic if the only reason RumBelle get decent screentime is because other cast members decided not to return? I do think everyone would return for season 6 especially if it s going to be the last. Ginny is pregnant as well so I can’t see them dropping Emilie because she had a child but not Ginny because that would be discrimination. They may give the two of them reduced roles though so for once we may actually get a season of happy RumBelle as the storie are tied up.
They may not let Emilie go, but she may want to leave by herself, to be able to be with her child in the 1st year, especially bc her baby father is a director, he lives in LA, if he has jobs they will be separated, and im sure he wont say no to direct movies just bc of a show that doesnt give him anything, is diferent from Ginny that has josh with her bc they work at same place. All the cast may saty, but i can also see Emilie wanting to leave.
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