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rainbow2
ParticipantI heavily believe that the reason that he has decided to say this is because one of the S5 deleted scenes must heavily contradict a big plot point during Season 6. I honestly don’t see any other reason why he’d just suddenly decide this.
This started after Adam was questioned about one scene, when some CS fans told him that the last seconds of a scene contradicts one scene in 512 and after that Adam decided to say that the deleted scenes were not canon, while promoting the DVD/Blu ray.
But like i said before, deleted scenes in this show or in any show, should not be canon, bc GA that doesnt buy DVd/bluray, should get what they see and not need to buy extra stuff to know more about the story.
The same goes with books, that they should follow Star wars and Star trek example, books are not canon until being confirmed on the movies or by the creators, even tho they are official merchandising of both brands.
Also, does that mean that the Cruella scene is not canon as well??
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ParticipantTHAT is really my whole point in why I’m angry this morning. If they had said from the get go that the deleted scenes were not canon and the only thing that IS canon is the actual aired show, then so be it. But the fact that they can change their mind based on whims, reactions, or to save face is infuriating. They get to pick and chose what is and what isn’t relevant–like the books are apparently canon (which are littered with contradictions to the actual aired show!) but item B isn’t. Okay, well why is that a rule? Oh right. I’m not supposed to question anything.
Dont forget that Adam actually said some time again on twitter that if it fits the show, the head canons from fans can be canon, which is sort of hilarious.
With all this contradictions in scripts is not surprise that actors say one thing on interviews and then the show actually shows a different thing, if we add that most of cast said that they only read their part of the script so not all the script to have one idea of the general story of the episode and some dont even see the final episode result, explains a giant PR/media/twiter mess the show has become and why the fandom acts like they do.
rainbow2
ParticipantIs lack of respect for fans, but i prefer that scene to not be canon, they should have said since beginning deleted scenes are not canon, what u see is what u get, they only came saying that now, bc of that exact scene that contradicts previous 512 scene, is not even a retcon, is a total lie that makes no sense.
rainbow2
ParticipantThat scene, at least for me makes me think that maybe was written before they film 512, so that is why probably contradicts the 512 scene, that was written after in a fan service to have neal on 512.
rainbow2
ParticipantWell taking in consideration one of the deleted scenes, that contradicts the show, i bet was bc of that they decided last minute to say that deleted scenes are not canon, so taking in consideration the scene, i`m actually happy the deleted scenes are not canon, bc that scene makes me prefer that way, bc even makes sense, GA that doesnt buy DVD/Bluray, sees the canon and should not have to buy the extra material to see extra scenes that are also canon, that way what they see is what they get.
And if this deleted scene called ” Neal’s greatest gift ” was written before 512 , means that unlike what they said about 512 scene being long planed was also a lie and was probably a last minute scene .
rainbow2
ParticipantIt’s so pathetically transparent why they’re suddenly backtracking on deleted scenes being canon. It’s infuriating, because the fact that they even wrote that scene in the first place, that it stayed in the script through the many edits that a script goes through, that they dedicated time and money to actually shooting it, that means it’s something that matters to the storytellers. But God forbid they upset the special snowflakes they need to pander to these days, so it got cut from the episode. And now they have to change their policy on deleted scenes being canon because GOD FORBID that the special snowflakes are made to accept that Neal is still someone who Emma loves. The showrunners sold out the integrity of the story they originally wanted to tell, and as a result the quality of the show went to crap, so the result is that one subset of the fandom are the only ones still super enthused about the show, so the showrunners have to keep pandering to them, or else they’re screwed. It’s really quite sad.
Phee like i said before, if the other quote from emma to regina was also true , im glad that the deleted scenes are not canon, bc that line if real says that Neal gave blessings to CS, which he did not, which also make us wonder how a scene like that was even written, after the 512 scene, dont they know the scripts they write to avoid writing lines like that? Im going to say it, Adam and eddy say that they decide the scenes, but i bet that they dont, i would say ABc does and then appears these inconsistences.
rainbow2
Participant@RumplesGirl, maybe u can confirm, but i guess that line about not cannon from Adam comes, after some CS fan complain how deleted scenes contradict the show, bc she says that one of her friends got the DVd already and says one of the scenes, Emma says to Regina that Neal supported her going to the UW, when the scene on 512 didnt show that.
If that is really on the scene, so maybe being caught in a retcon of a previous scene, may have made Adam saying that the scenes are not canon, bc having Emma saying” Neal`s greatest gift was giving his blessing to find hook in UW”, when was the opposite of what he said, im actually happy that was deleted and is not canon.
Also, means that in previous DVd, many CS and hook scenes besides the jello are also not canon.
rainbow2
ParticipantAww she looks great. If she’s in SB, then I’m going to guess that Jasmine was in the Land of Untold Stories and was transported to SB via Hyde at the end of S5B. So how did she end up on Forgotten Character Island and how long was she there?
Or maybe she was always in SB and is only seen now, she looks to comfortable to modern times and clothes and aladdin is the one that was in LoS.
rainbow2
ParticipantWell is just one episode from what i read, this show is also filmed in vancouver. Funny, tho i always thought MRJ would end on this show, bc is a NBC/Sony show( same GoS studios) and from the same people that created Terriers.
August 12, 2016 at 5:46 pm in reply to: 605 Title – Street Rats (Formerly "Diamond in the Rough," Presumably) #326540rainbow2
ParticipantThe original leaked title was called “Diamond in the Rough”, though. So I still think it will be Aladdin focused.
Well, yeah,that was odd, why change a episode name that hints to a character, to give it another name that hints to the same character, makes no sense, if they didnt want people to know what the episode is about. But then again, they are only now filming epi 4, right? so maybe script names can change or maybe some episodes have code names, that are not the real name of the episode, tv production is weird.
And have to say i agree with @Slurpez about the Neal thing, bc i dont think we will ever see anything Neal related, like A&E said or hinted or baited, but i do think she may be right in the sense that i see more being related to Aladdin and Emma, maybe Emma and Aladdin finally meet face to face, maybe Savior vs Savior, or something like that, not saying that jasmine wont be in the episode, just saying that maybe the main focus are not Aladdin & Jasmine love story, but Aladdin and Emma savior storyline.
But then again, i think the last time they had a episode title actually related to the storyline was in 221/222, where the episodes actually say Neverland, i dont remenber if all the other Disney guest stars epis, had any title that had a song on it, so maybe they dont use “whole new world” and just go with “street rats”, that is a bit of a disapointing title to Jasmine and Aladdin love story, i mean at least in my opinion.
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