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I’m not certain she would sacrifice herself for Belle or Robin.
So you are saying that the savior, seing belle, or Robin, or Roland, dying in front of her, she would not save them, if she had the oportunity to save them? So what you are saying is that Emma is not savior then.That test, doesnt mean that emma doesnt love Hook, simply means that cant be use to prove TL, bc if someone else was there, ok, if was Rumple or Zelena, i have my doubts, but all the others im sure emma would do the same thing.
That test has loopholes, that can be retcon later, the same thing happens with OQ pixie dust thing, whne you have loopholes, you cant use that to prove anything, you cant retcon True Love Kiss after the couple had it, you cant retcon sharing a heart bc they are True Love. So for me this test, doesnt confirm to me that Cs is TL, bc if they want they can later retcon it.
So far on the show we were told that only TLK and some weird sharing hearts means TL, so im still keeping that way, and before anyone says is something against Cs, is not, bc i totally believe they will be really confirmed TL, the same way TL couples were confirmed aka TLK, in fact like i said above, the OQ pixie dust, so for me confirms nothing about OQ, so yeah, that is why i say that test can`t be compared to RB situation, bc only confirms that Emma may have finally accepted her role as Savior, that she the others, before herself. OK, looking back now i see some similarity with Rumple, in the sense that Rumple has to be prepare to sacrifice everything for other people happiness, even if means he will lose his.
[adrotate group="5"]I think in relation to TLK on Rumbelle they are waiting to be like Beauty and the Beast, so meaning the beast has to go, aka Dark one.
I think we cant compare RB to CS, especially bc to me that CS scene didnt confirmed CS as True love at all, if we take Hook from that scene and put any other character, like for example, Belle, Regina, Roland, Robin and some others ( not using Emma`s family members by blood), she would have chosen to save them as well and that doesnt mean she would have TL with belle, or with Regina, or with Robin and no way with Roland, that scene means that Emma is simply the savior, aka, she will have to put others in front of her needs. So i think RB TLK to work , Rumple has to be on same state of mind that he was on 311, Belle hapiness and his future child have to matter more to him, that his powers or his own life, he needs to be prepare to sacrifice himself and his powers for Belle.
(she kept the pendant until S3b)
No, she didnt, she had him until S4 finale, you can clearly see when she sacrifices herself for the darkness she has the 2 necklaces, she didnt gave Henry the swan necklace, you can even see it on epi 319 and even on the time travel episode on S3 b. JMo said that after emma became DO, those necklaces and the shoelace were gone, she even said, well they are not gone gone, in her mind Emma put those into her memory box.
Why does Lily keep calling baby emma on the flashbacks, when back in 2009 she had 26 years old. And she was still stealing after leaving jail like almost 10 years ago? And didnt they said she became a bailsbond after leaving prison? so she was only bailsbond for 2 years when the pilot happened? At least that was what i understood from lily review. Never mind my questions are pointless.
Actually from what i read online, didnt saw the scene, but from what i heard that scene sort of leaves lots of loopholes that can be retcon later if they wanted, that scene was more a hint to make Csers happy, than a actual confirmation, i mean if they had TLk, or shared a heart was better, now a test that if we could take hook and put, Belle, or Regina, or roland, she would do the same, for me at least that is only a hint, to a bigger confirmation later on or not, also was weird they confirmed 100% sure TL , without A&E being the ones writing the episode.
I just think at this point they should stop the hints and be brave to confirm it finally, this is getting stupid, also another thing for this hint, with most likely Robin dying next episode, they had to hint at certain things to CS, to avoid SQ but at same time bait them, so i see this test be the same thing to OQ pixie dust and with probable Robin death( and i think he wont return, unless is for some flashbacks), shows that pixie dust and tests cant give you the bigger picture.
TLK not working for Rumple and Belle. I put this in the mix because I am hopeful that it will work by the end of the season and should be a much bigger moment for the couple.
I do not think this is going to happen because EdR went on maternity leave at about this time …. I think her being waken will occur next season. .
we know EdR did a lot filming with Merida so….
She did? When? because the fans on set said they didnt saw Emilie on location since epi 517? so how can they know if she filmed with merida?
Some have brought up the possibility that the returning character isn’t a full returning character, but rather a returning persona of a current character. This person being the Evil Queen. Lana’s response at a convention this weekend points to this possibility: <iframe id=”twitter-widget-0″ class=”twitter-tweet twitter-tweet-rendered” style=”position: static; visibility: visible; display: block; width: 500px; height: 181.766px; padding: 0px; border: none; max-width: 100%; min-width: 220px; margin-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px;” title=”Twitter Tweet” frameborder=”0″ scrolling=”no” allowfullscreen=”true” data-tweet-id=”726860350625308672″></iframe><script src=”//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js” async=”” charset=”utf-8″></script>The flashbacks for the finale seem like they’ll be Jekyll/Hyde centric, so that leans towards the Evil Queen being incorporated in the present day. What I think could happen is that Regina somehow ends up taking Jekyll’s potion, and this causes her to transform into her old Evil Queen self. So Regina could go back and forth between her current self and the Evil Queen. This way the writers get to re-introduce the Evil Queen back into the present without undoing Regina’s character development. I’m mixed on this possibility. A lot of this sounds like it’d be a repeat of the Spell of Shattered Sight, but if done right, this could be intriguing.
But that is not unexpected at all, bc no matter what Regina always will be the Evil queen, and the fact that JMo says is a character that no one expects, sort of rules out Evil Queen, even tho she probably will continue to appear on flashbacks. Unless they go now, after destroying Rumple character, they will destroy Regina making her do bad things without remember, bc that is totally a thing Evil regals will love. Im still going with Tink or with Violet staying for s6
Lots of support and love for all of you today. You will need it and im sure this thread will move forward very fast starting tonight just like after 315. Again you have my admiration, about what you going to endure today.
For all of you
chocolate is also good to not make you sad
1) I can’t imagine a reality where Neal doesn’t want to be an active participant in his child’s life. He wouldn’t pack up and move many states away where he could only see Henry on some weekend and every other holiday
Is hilarious that everyone is making lots of theories about this, i dont even know why people are thinking to much about this, especially bc we dont have media making a big deal about it, where are the articles about what character would that be, i think that most likely is nobody important and that is a SB person that we dont see a long time, or maybe they mean Violet that will stay in SB for next season. I continue to say is not Neal.
But to answer your question, MEMORY LOSS, or how about Rumple does to Neal what Regina did to Emma on 311, Rumple would know that neal seeing emma with Hook would be painful, so he makes the ultimate sacrifice, let it go of his son, would erase his memories and give him happy ones, Neal would not remember anything, would never seen again until the plot requests and if requests. Obvious, Rumple would not say to anyone this, bc is not like he cares about any of the others and bonds with henry, so would also be on character with rumple, keep secrets from everyone or maybe he would tell Belle if they dont break up for real.
Or bring Dylan as teen Bae, with no memories and no one would say anything about it, bc they dont have deep conversations anymore and Bae would not have his memories and would think he always lived with rumple.
2) I can’t imagine A and E pulling a character “out of heaven” and make them live in this world and claim it was any kind of happy ending. I mean…S6 of Buffy, anyone?
Well using some comments i saw online and fits the show, something called retcon, was simply Emma having a dream, or hades gave her that vision and was not really Neal. Or neal got a second chance from Heaven to have his happy ending on earth.
By the way didnt thought much about this, simply used what the show is doing now, memory loss and retcon, so would fit very well, would make neal fall in love with someone off screen and if they wanted him again on last episode of the show, he would sudden remember, but would have his new TL, and bla, bla, bla.
I dont want any of this and neither i want MRJ back at this show, not even for one scene, but the show no longer follows logic, so in that case is very easy to do things that confuse the viewers and stil bring ratings, bc people would eb like , will neal appear again?? will he remember, etc, etc, and one thing appears for sure, MRJ appears to admire A&E very much at least according to Matt M.
If it’s Neal then it seems morel likely he’ll show up at some point in 522 (Only You).
Actually, if is Neal, which i dont believe at all, i would say 523 not 522, after 315, neal only appeared on episodes that A&E wrote, he may be mentioned in other writers episodes, but only appears on A&E epis, so if ends being Neal, would fit that A&E wrote a scene to be insert on 523, that was filmed in January, so if is Neal, he will appear on 523 and not 522. Only you would lead to one apperance on 523, which for me, would still be a bad use of word return, bc for me one scene means apperance and not return, but whatever.
