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Apparently the writers don’t like anything about episode 209 and they feel the need to rewrite it all the time.
I think 209 is the least of their problems, they simply forgot that Hook`s body is not really there, his body is on SB, so how can emma share a heart with a soul, that in a way is a type of shadow of the person, should be like a ghost, so she could take the soul to SB and only with a real body share a heart, not with a ghost, bc that means that hook will be alive, while there is a body in SB, but lets forget inconsistences, as long we give a part of the fandom what they want and as long as that part of the fandom is happy, they dont care about the other fans say or not.
[adrotate group="5"]yeah, saw people online saying that is Emma`s and that only Hades could take it, so this was a waste of time, the 511 plan will happen, Cs will be shown as TL and people should ahve seen 512, skip all the others epis, see this one and the rest of the season.
What if we are overthinking
I agree with this, if we read the words of A&E they say the return of a old character, they dont say is anyone big or important and also JMo words i think is more about the new characters, because she says she can`t talk about the return, her excitment is probably PR mix with the talk of the brothers that we know now, may not be brothers but be Jekyll and Hyde, so i dont see her words be related to this return. If this was the last episode of the show, then yeah, i could see a flashback or dream with Neal, but nope, im not getting neal vibes, especially bc of the use of the word RETURN, that to me indicates that is someone that has more than one scene, and who knows may stay during the episode or several epis in s6, again not meaning regular, so Neal is totally out of my mind and away from my vibes.
Maybe they mean characters like Tink, or Merida or even Violet.
Im sort of confuse with these articles( Tv line sweeps “list of big returns” and eonline), especially by what they mean by “returns”, let`s put on the table that is Neal, if was him that would not be a return, if he does for example, a dream sequence with Henry or a flashback with Henry, that for me is an apperance, not return, is simply a scene, for me a return and i think is what these articles or at least Tv line one means, is a return of a character to the show for more than one scene and to stay sometime, even if not as regular, that would be a return, which we know wont happen. And on the Eonline article, are A&E that say the words big return i believe, so i think they would not say a big return to neal, they could say maybe a old character will make one apperance, i say this, if was Neal, matt M would know this and would be making articles about it.
I looked at their scorecard for last year, and their big returns included characters that didn’t necessarily stick around in a larger capacity. Here’s their list of Resurrections/Big Returns from last year:
1. AIRED April 26: Lily/Once Upon a Time 2. AIRED April 28: Maria Hill/Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. 3. AIRED April 28: Sameen Shaw/Person of Interest 4. AIRED May 3: Victoria/Revenge 5. AIRED May 3: Charlotte/Revenge 6. AIRED May 6: Cragen: Law & Order: SVU 7. AIRED May 7: Liv/The Vampire Diaries 8. AIRED May 8: Catherine/Hawaii Five-0 9. AIRED May 8: Trubel/Grimm 10. AIRED May 8: Kelly Burkhardt/Grimm 11. AIRED May 8: Diana/Grimm 12. AIRED May 11: Sin Rostro/Jane the Virgin 13. AIRED May 11: Esther/The Originals 14. AIRED May 14: Jeremy/The Vampire Diaries 15. AIRED May 14: Nostradamus/Reign 16. AIRED May 14: Oscar/Elementary 17. AIRED May 15: Martin Meisner/Grimm 18. AIRED May 15: Agent Chavez, Grimm
Source: http://tvline.com/2015/04/02/may-sweeps-scorecard-2015-spoilers/
Yes, I know that is why I said not coming back as regular, but these characters on the list all stayed more than one scene in one episode, which would be the Neal case, just one scene, just like 512, that is why for me he doesn’t fit into a big return, if he was to comeback for some episodes and then gone again, that would be a return, one scene is like i said before just one apperance.
I posted this on the may sweps thing, but since that is not the thread to talk about this, i post it here also.
Im sort of confuse with these articles( Tv line sweeps list of big returns and eonline), especially by what they mean by “returns”, let`s put on the table that is Neal, if was him that would not be a return, if he does for example, a dream sequence with Henry or a flashback with Henry, that for me is an apperance, not return, is simply a scene, for me a return and i think is what these articles or at least Tv line one means, is a return of a character to the show for more than one scene and to stay sometime, even if not as regular, that would be a return, which we know wont happen. And the Eonline article , are A&E that say the words big return i believe, so i think they would not say a big return to neal, they could say maybe a old character will make one apperance, i say this, if was Neal, matt M would know this and would be making articles about it.
In fact, another clue for not being Neal, is the fact that this return was mentioned by A&E, if was Neal they would keep secret, not say reveal a return of one old character, I know that I say that they are not very smart, but in this case they are, they know that by saying old return, people would think of Neal, which is why is not Neal, they reveal this and people think one character and then BOOM another character appears. I still say Tink at this point.
MatthewPaul Moderator Due to E! Online’s recent article, me and RG looked back at what the “Number of resurrections and/or big returns” category could include. Hook being included for being a resurrection is still a given, but now this old returning character could be included under “big return”. If you look at the thread about the E! Online article, we’ve already considered which characters, with Neal being the most brought up possibility.
Im sort of confuse with these articles( Tv line sweeps “list of big returns” and eonline), especially by what they mean by “returns”, let`s put on the table that is Neal, if was him that would not be a return, if he does for example, a dream sequence with Henry or a flashback with Henry, that for me is an apperance, not return, is simply a scene, for me a return and i think is what these articles or at least Tv line one means, is a return of a character to the show for more than one scene and to stay sometime, even if not as regular, that would be a return, which we know wont happen. And on the Eonline article, are A&E that say the words big return i believe, so i think they would not say a big return to neal, they could say maybe a old character will make one apperance, i say this, if was Neal, matt M would know this and would be making articles about it.
I think they probably filmed Neal’s 512 scene (which was short around 517/518) and this probable 522 scene at the same time.
But also at this point doesnt make sense neal appear to henry as dream, they had MRJ there to film 512, they could have filmed that also for Underworld episodes, when Henry was looking for him also on epi 512, using it on NY episodes makes no sense and a flashback of neal and henry, is the same thing, especially bc they cant have MRj with a bennie again, since his hair is now very different from when he was Neal. Im rulling out Neal, even tho the last time i did that i got 512 after saying no during 2 years, but even with that i say, is not Neal.
Regarding the recent MRJ interview, keep in mind that the interview was most likely conducted after filming for Season 5 wrapped.
Well, was made one week before ouat finished filming, i believe, and the center of that interview was the new show and Matt ended asking him some questions about Neal and 512.
The details Jmo gives are about the new characters the “brothers”, since she says she can`t say much about it this return, so no mention if is on flashbacks or dreams or even if this old character is coming back to the show only on s5 finale or also for S6, because we know the brothers will appear on s6a at least, so the same can be said about this return character,
I dont think August is a big thing, since he is supposed to be on SB, the same thing to Mal and lily, yes they are returns, but they are returns that you would announce, is no need make a surprise about it, they only need to keep surprise if was someone big, of course the same can be said about Tink, but at this moment Rose is getting more media attention than the other ones, so she could be a fun surprise. Or who knows, maybe is the Ingrid or Anna, they are filming that A&E new show.
*sigh* *prepares self for Neal*
Something someone mentioned to me about a possibility based on ouat truck being filming in University of south california, like 1 or 2 weeks ago, just came to my head, but since was never confirmed i never thought of that again, until now, and talking about filming in secret, but just hope not, no, no more Neal, i mean MRj even said on the interview, that neal got book end and sort of hint no more ouat. Also this is supposed to be on the finale, right? the finale is on 523, even tho by then they are still in NY, but yeah, no Neal.
Maybe is Tink? or Graham, although i think they dont have money to have jamie back and he is filming the 50 shades movies, but maybe is bc of that, the character comeback would be unexpected.
why does he need to go to NY to do the mixtape??
Who said anything about him going to New York to do the Mixtape? Yes, we know that they end up in New York but I very much doubt that trip will have anything to do with the Mixtape.
The thing is with OUAT we cant say we know things with 100% sure, the mixtape may or not may be related to NY, but since the episode name has a sort of connection to Neal, since is a song that Henry only knew bc of his father, neal`s apartment may appear again( really hope not, no more bait/fanservice neal related, that should ahev been done on S3b and s4a) and with Henry in NY, i say there is a chance the mixtape being related to NY trip. But we will have to wait and see if is or not related to Ny trip.
