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ParticipantHook finds himself trying to protect Belle from Mr. Gold, who has made sure she can’t leave the confines of the pirate ship.
Why???
@RG Because drama, would be to easy to simply move in, so next epi 605 more drama, 606 more drama, so that finally in the end of this part, like before christmas love conquers everything, really basic, is the soap operas rule, fake drama, fake drama, fake drama.
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ParticipantNot just the debate, the fact of no competition at same hour, many people could have simply turn on the tv , do other stuff, not watching the show and waiting for the debate, not to mention like I said before may have liked last week and turn on this week to see, next week will be interesting with NCIS LA back.
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ParticipantThe ratings will depend if people liked last week episode, if they did, then they will tune in, if they didnt, then they wont, the ratings of next week are the ones that will reflect what they thought of this night episode. Also, there is a tradiction, everytime they show a episode at some con, the ratings if i remember right always drop or mantain.
Also NCIs la, doesnt air today bc of the debate, so will be interesting, to see if that makes ouat ratings go up bc of no competition.
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Participantoh sorry, but the actress thinks we are idiots and doesnt want to return and work with us, and the same with Will actor, they dont want to return, but #nospoilers”
Sure, but this isn’t impossible to solve. Something to the effect of this: “Yes, we would have loved to pursue the Cinderella/Anastasia connection, but since Emma Rigby is very busy with other projects, we decided that this isn’t a storyline we can do justice to without her. But we are so thrilled that people remember and care about Ana’s story and we are so lucky to have such smart, attentive fans. Thank you all!” Boom, done. Upholds the fans, upholds Emma Rigby no matter what she feels about A&E, addresses audience’s question, and doesn’t try to gaslight everyone.
They did that with Jafar actor, which in his case is true, he has other stuff and contracts with other companies, but the problem happens, when she is not busy, she is not doing anything at the moment, at least according to her imbd page, she has several projects to premierethis year and one next year, but nothing doing now( at least that is known in her page), bc in the end they cant made up projects when the actors are not doing anything.
But then again, they could be real writers and end what they started and do some storylines in a row, and stop this, of doing some storylines in one season and only 2 or 3 seasons after return to them, heck they dont even know their show timeline, that is their problem, they start some stories, get a new toy to play at the middle of the story, dont end it, retcon 3000 things in btw, and when they have no more ideas they want to go back, but is not possible anymore, bc doesnt fit in the storyline anymore ( this whole cinderella family being in the LoUS, is another retcon of s1, bc ruby said to henry and emma that Ella was living with 2 step sisters and one stepmother in SB, so they couldnt be in LoUS) or the actors are not available anymore.
That is another problem of them, if they didnt confirmed it in Wonderland, that leaves the door open for them to retcon, there are so many scenes like that on ouat, where the scene is open to several interpretations.
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ParticipantJust added that one in
Sorry for not contributing a helpful reference (I don’t own OUATiW), but as moral support, this is what A&E’s reaction to the Anastasia question reminds me of:
Ugh. Toddlers.
Agree with you, and also bc they will keep saying that they want to show Ana untold story, and maybe really they want to show it , but we keep forgeting something, like i said in another thread, maybe the actress didnt wanted to return , so they had to retcon, and say Wonderland is not cannon, is not like they would say, “oh sorry, but the actress thinks we are idiots and doesnt want to return and work with us, and the same with Will actor, they dont want to return, but #nospoilers”
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Participanti think a problem is that or they dont remember the past seasons, or they have lack of imagination or both, bc appears also, according to some people that saw this episode, appears Henry asks Hook to teah him how to sword fight, however they forgot that Charming and Neal already taught him how in S2, the same thing with the Henry and hook teaching him how to sail, at this moment the way the story is, i wonder how much they regret having made Baelfire a character, how much they regret Neal, or how much they regret of having bae as Neal so as Henry father, bc lets be real, Neal/Bae is now a missing piece that shows how much the show is being retcon, at this precise moment, they may be like, “crap, if that character didnt exist, there would exist so many plot holes, heck they may even regreting having made emma a mom.
That is why at this point i would be surprised if they sudden came with Neal/Bae was never Rumple kid, milah had one affair with some guy, and heck even with neal is not really henry father and at some point Hook from future would know what was going to happen and pretended to be neal and got emma pregnant to have the savior coming to SB, at this point i think the viewers and media would think that was a major twist, very well cover and would actually praise it and the ones that didnt, would be called haters.
I do agree with something @Hjbau said, the major part of the fandom that calls them out, are the SQ fans, they use proves that adam lied, they use very well arguments, that they end destroying with their quotes of how Sq was always meant to be, one thing is when they show and do a good job that makes people think about the show inconsistences, but then they detroy everything talking about SQ, which makes them look like they are mad bc of ships, so they are haters in ouat fandom way. The same thing for RB fans, they called how Neal and Rumple really didnt made peace, but then they say “hey look RB is going to have a baby and is a boy, which on RB fandom is like” oh, well neal is dead, rumple will have another chance to be a father lets all move on and forget neal, he is happy and moved on, blablabla”, so what does this makes the fans look? makes them look, that if they get what they want they will praise the show and forget the inconsistences, if they dont they will keep talking about it, the reason why peopel call haters to people that critisize the show, is bc as soon as they get want they want, they have no problems with it, but if they got what they wanted and still continue show how bad it is, then people would think, ok, so they got what they wanted, so maybe the show really sucks.
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ParticipantI don’t exactly blame Jennifer because she is in too deep. She probably doesn’t even watch the episodes. The writers talk to her in the right way, so she doesn’t see it. She is at fault for not being aware of what she is putting out there. I do understand her problem though. She wants to work. She wants to act. If she just says horrible things about the show, then that could go away. She could not get work anymore. I do think she might be more careful with what she does in the future though. People aren’t perfect though. Eddie and Adam i have much less tolerance for because they have a much greater control of the show.
Well, several actors while working in other projects had no problem in talking bad of some things of their characters, Twilight, 50shades, The vampire diaries, originals, Unreal etc, all movies and shows that had the actors saying that they are paid to act, but they dont agree with certain things the characters do, even this week TVD actor came to say that he doesnt understand how fans want Elena back to end withj damon or stefan when they destroyed her life, one thing is talk bad of the writers and show, the other is expressing that even tho the character does this, they dont agree, but like u said they are paid to act that way, i mean Hook killed Merlin, Zelena killed Neal, marian, raped Robin, Regina killed graham, and the thing the actors say is that every character deserves a happy ending( forgetting the dead ones that were killed ), except Rumple that is evil and he doesnt deserves belle, and that Adam and eddie are amazing writers that are writing a great development for the characters, im sorry, the only way i see this if not the actors is that they are forbidden of saying what they want and what they think, even tho Adam says the actors are free to say whatever they want to say.
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ParticipantWhile I could have imagined seasons 1-3a Emma wanting another child with Neal, there is no way I could imagine her wanting one with the pirate, especially after he tried to send her son to hell. I just cannot even take it with this show anymore. I’m officially done with it, even though I’ve been over it for awhile. Emma is just a TV character and JMo is an actress who gets paid to promote the show and her character, but what about standing up for women and being a role model for impressionable girls and young women? I’m disappointed in her and the showrunners. Emma used to be an empowered heroine who stood up for the weak and never took crap from anyone. *shakes head in dismay*
I don’t think they care as long as they get their paycheck. It seems clear to me that everyone involved (maybe except Lana and Bex who still somewhat enjoy their roles) are doing the show and conventions for the money and nothing more and they say what they are told to say.
As far as what she said now, I don’t think it’s any worse than what she said last season, that Emma rather die than live without Hook.
and Colin, i think fame got into him and i dont think he will have a big carrer after ouat, he will live of cons.
laugh at THIS
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ParticipantOh was very pR, when Cs fans screamed, she asked them to scream louder and she was very excited about it and she also said that she thought Hook and Emma should be living together long time now and she point out agian how emma should be a example of strong woman to girls, and that seh grow a lot like character, S1 she was alone no trust in anyone, due to her past, now she has her parents, son and hook with her, bla,bla, bla.
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ParticipantThe NYCC spoilers are simply hilarious and sad at same time, just just by the episode, but also bc of the panel and what JMo said.
JMo said that emma feels sad, and cheeted bc she thinks she will die and wont be able to give hook his HE and she also said that Emma wants to give hook a child so that he gets happy, this is what this show has become, so accoding to jMO, Emma doesnt care if Henry is sad or her parents if she dies, she is sad that hook wont get her and a child and so he wont get his happy ending.please let be this last season. -
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