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guys if Neal is the tinman and this is a Oz arch. I think he will quite an dynamic storyline. My thoughts is it will be like Nasty Habit, poor Neal gets capture and taken away in the end. I wonder if Zelena traps him in Oz or puts him under a sleeping curse for safe keeping away from those who love him.
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I think not just courage but a chance at happiness, a chance at love, a chance to undo what was done. I wonder if Zelena not only wants revenge but she wants to recreate herself as someone loved and accepted. Zelena is about envy. So it makes wonder if Zelena wants to rebirth herself into Snow’s baby for a second chance Or use snow baby’s as the final ingredient since a child represent new life and innocence.
I watched a lot of sci-fantasy, and I’ve seen newborns and pregnancy used as a plot like this before?
"I will be kind but I will speak my mind."
love the idea of Emma going on a quest to retrieve the lots totems!! And Phee is right (in another thread) that Rumple is the scarecrow and the dagger is his totem then it means Emma is going to save the most important people in her life.
Charming = courage = father
Rumple = brains = the man who ensured that she was the Savior
Henry = loyalty = son
Neal = heart = TRUE LOVE.I thought the same thing, they are using the important men in Emma’s life to represent different things from the story. Intriguing. I think Henry might be her toto though. LOL
I’m a bit perturbed that one time we get Neal in the promo it shows him in trouble. With that out of my system. I’m with RG they are not going to reveal the big death especially the one that majority they think will be it the promo. Just like OUATW, no one saw that one coming in promos either and think it was the same with Graham. That just writing and tv 101. I worry more for Neal in the following episodes. However with the intensive closed set and two hour finale. I bet my bottoms that’s when the spoiler of doom and the wedding will occur.
Guys and Gals, I’m still worried about the Charmings. I just has this eerie foreboding. Charming saying he would die to protect his family. And Snow emphasizing we do this like they always do this, together. Oh why oh why we have to this spoiler doom. It just make me said for our characters.
"I will be kind but I will speak my mind."
Someone asked when did I fall in love with Swanfire or when I start shipping swanfire.
I must tell you it was slow yet steady build. But I am going to try and break it down and not in rank order.
- Desperate Souls: I always had my suspicious Baelfire was Henry’s father. And if he was Henry’s father what happen to make him a bad mad.
- Tallahassee: Emma’s smile, their young love quirkness the randomness of their meeting up with each other. I could see the love and joy they had for each other. I couldn’t deny the mutual love they have for each other. But yet I never ship it.
- Manhattan: Despite the anger, despite the pain, the hurt, I could see the love between all. There was hurt, there was pain but there was also love. (This is one of my faves because they acting was superb and the emotional charge was like fire. Kudos to Robert, JMO, MRJ, and Jared) But yet I still did not ship them
- Second Star to the Right : the beach talk, I love you, I love you too. That scene just touch me so much, because finally they declared the feeling-emotion that has lasted for ten years, LOVE. I didn’t ship them but I had high respect and regards for their love!
- comic-con: JMO and MRJ were just amazing together and so adorbs. I love their interaction because they made work look fun. And then I thought thats probably how Neal, Emma, and Henry would be, sassy and fun, goofballs with a mischievous streak. And they would challenge each other, respect each other, and love each other. I was starting to really lean towards the shipping side.
- Season 3A episodes 1-4 I love the fact that Neal was fighting his way back to Emma and Henry. I love that Emma was connecting with Neal through his past. I loved how Henry was thinking about his mother and his father. We had Emma, Neal, and Henry all taking the leap of faith. We had our swanfire trio separated and divided longing for each other. It was a beauitful story being formed, and I just rooted for those three to get their second chance. But I would say not just second chance but, a chance to be a family, a home.
- The story: I love the story of Swanfire, of Emma, Neal, and Henry. Its so poetic, the savior, the reason, and the believer. The son of the dark one and the daughter of the true love! Its a great story that tugs at my heartstrings unlike any couple, pairing, or ship on OUAT. I ship MadSwan for fun, but I ship Swanfire for love. I ship their love which is so poignant and heartfelt.
I don’t put Neal’s feelings above Emma and don’t put Emma’s feelings over Neal, and I don’t put Henry’s feelings above his parents. I take all their feelings and emotions in account. And what I see is three people who love each very much. And I root for their love and their happy ending.
If Emma didn’t love Neal and Neal didn’t love Emma, I can accept that, but the fact remains is she still loves him very much and he still loves her. And Henry loves them both, and they love Henry.
I’m shipping their love and their story!
"I will be kind but I will speak my mind."
My only thing is if Neal seen movie he should know what a flying Monkey is.
So basically we can view that he knew what a flying monkey is from the movie yet never seen one in actuality.
But one can say that if he visit Oz in the past, perhaps there wasn’t any flying monkeys back then? Maybe Flying Monkey came later.
So who knows. Really Cool theory though.
"I will be kind but I will speak my mind."
@RG your probably right but still I don’t know. Because most think they are safe, I think that would be the game changing shocker to lose either one of them. But I rather it not be them. Sadly if I had to put anyone there, I say Hook. He wouldn’t mind dieing a hero’s death. And actually makes sense from story perspective. Especially with him begging for death in S2. But I just don’t see anything Game changing about his lost. .
I think it would be awesome if Emma is in EF to help rescue Neal. To see her hoping and believing he was alive, her fighting for her happy ending, Emma Swan getting her man! Because Home is where the heart is!
"I will be kind but I will speak my mind."
Off topic but I’m sorry I can’t not handle the other topic thread, it terrifies me to enter those chambers. I just feel more comfortable talking with my fellow fireducklings and firetheives on this subject. My gut says its either snow or charming, and that makes me sad. Although Snow will hurt more because she really want to raise her child. With Charming it will pain me but Charming has always been willing to sacrifice his life for his family. Back when Baby Emma was concern and when it came to Henry on Neverland to Charming Love is Sacrifice. So I can see Charming be at peace with his death, as long as he knows Snow, Emma, Henry, will be safe. But also think that if Josh leaves the show it gives Ginny an exit to raise her child. I can see Snow secretly goes to a safe realm to raise her baby. And if it was sadly Snow I can see Josh get a way to exit with Ginny as well. All I know its frustrate me to see the ones who work hard to try get some sort of happiness in their lives may not get a chance to. I hate this spoiler of doom. I hate it with a passion. Why can’t all of these characters get a happy ending. Snow & Charming raise their baby, Hook & Tink sail off on adventures, Regina lives a happy life with Henry, Robin & Roland; Neal, Emma, & Henry enjoy life in both the modern world and the EF, Rumple and Belle finally get to spend some time together and have all the hamburger dates they can muster, Ruby, & Whale & Granny & Pinocchio and Archie lives as a family unit. Is this to much to ask!
sorry for the mini rant, but I just want to see all of these characters get a happy ending!!!
"I will be kind but I will speak my mind."
Nice theories heather and lisas, I hope either prove to be true!
"I will be kind but I will speak my mind."
