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The things is the way Emma interact with Hook, she didn’t interact that way with Neal, Graham, or August (her potential suitors), she had her same spunky sassy completely in control personality. I mean even with her walls up with both Graham and August her personality has been pretty much the same for all three men. She seem happy and joyful with them. However with Hook on Neverland, she makes me think of how she was with Hatter in complete survival mood (save MM, save Henry, escape, escape). And I shipped MadSwan for all the wrong reason they were sexy and wacky together work out beautiful in my head canon only. But I knew it will never work out on screen, he assaulted & threaten both her and her mother and I’m not sure that should be conveyed as romance to family audience. So it actual surprise me that they went with Captain Swan. I always thought it would be some sort of ship teasing but nothing serious or hardcore because of the nature of Hook’s character and his treatment of Emma & her family.
But I never knew they were going anywhere with Swanfire either, I never hated them together, I just thought how really cute they were in Talahasse and how much they were in love, and it was sad they had to be broken up. I always got love vibs from Neal, Graham, and August (But he was more sibling love to me). Hatter, Hook, and Regina made me think of lust but never love. I always thought Emma happy ending would just be Henry and her family, that she would never have a clear suitor who wins out but her options for love would always be open for later in life. (Even the writers said they at one point they wanted multiple suitors for Emma) That we fans would be left with gift of creating our own romantic fairytale happy ending for Emma in fan fiction. But then we got the love triangle, which was to my surprise.
sidenote: I heard a rumor that the love triangle was suppose to be August and Neal originally, not Hook. Hook came later after Eion left the show for another opportunity. Which makes me wonder that if they always intended for Neal to be the one for Emma, that the other guy was easily replaceable????
[adrotate group="5"]"I will be kind but I will speak my mind."
I guess we are suppose to pretend Season 2 didn’t happen.
But its strange we got Rumbelle, Snowing and thne love triangle fighting for Emma (who chooses Henry)? Which for me Rumbelle, Snowing, Captain Swan just doesn’t have the same ring to it in fairy tale sense as Snowing, Rumbelle, and Swanfire.
I’m trying to think of big picture and over all message. Snowing talked about love is sacrifice vs love is staying together, while Rumbelle was I know that with the strength of our love you will find it, so love is hope.So we get love is sacrifice, love is strength, love is staying together, love is hope.(This sound more like Swanfire to me than Captain Swan but I could be wrong?) Now one thing Swanfire have in with Swanfire and Snowing is they all turn away their love at some point. Rumple sent Belle away, but was later reunited with her. Snow told Charming that she didn’t love him and was later reunited with him. So its hard for me to see Neal leaving Emma as the breaking point for Swanfire. (Although I still can be wrong)
And lets not forget we had Kathyrn, David, Mary Marget, and little bit of Whale in S1.
I don’t know I’m going to keep nursing my Swanfire embers with hope."I will be kind but I will speak my mind."
Well JMO and MRJ hit off as good friends, and best buds!!!
"I will be kind but I will speak my mind."
Yes I agree, he was sulking because she actually choose Henry! I can not respect or buy into CS because it frighten me because its a terrible, terrible misconception that this is told to young women that this is what true love is all about, you can CHANGE him, he will win you no matter what because he said so, his feelings are more important than yours, he can make sexual disrespecting innuendos and its okay. Perhaps that is not what the writers are trying to convey but that is what I am actual seeing and getting from a few in the fandom. Captain Swan is nothing like Snowing or Rumbelle or any other canon ship I have seen. I just don’t get romance or lovey dovey vibes from them. I get I’m hot, I’m sexy, I’m pirate of course I get the girl. Bad boy gets good girl.
As for Swanfire, I think they have better story telling experience its different, its unique, and its original. I can actually see them growing old together and the other person I can see that with was Graham.
Yes Hook is right Emma would have to make a choice but she can not make a choice right there and she can not deal with this right now. There is a time and a place and this was not the time nor the place to put demands on her. Her son’s life is at stake.
Also fans said she called out Hooks name, yes she did, but you know what else I heard, “Emma go away, save yourself.” Neal is fighting for her, and when she told where they can go with this love triangle. Neal told her she was right and that if the only thing that came from us was our son, then at least we did something right! Emma smiled briefly at that because it was reassuring. And she even told him, now lets go get our son! Even if Swanfire is not endgame, Swanfire-Family would be no matter what! But if they can find love and be a family once more, that would just be an awesome happy ending for all.
"I will be kind but I will speak my mind."
Welcome Katie, love the above post about pro-Swanfire
Yes I agree, I don’t like this messages of CS, first one, ” hey If I pretend to be nice guy, I can get the girl” Second one, “A girl can change a him” We all know that a person has to truly want to change for themselves not because of another person. Because they would never get far.
Also I was put off by Hook’s speech all of it, I was put off by Hook’s sulking because Emma choose Henry. It was wake up call for Neal who realize she was right but to Hook he look as if he got punched in the gut for Emma actually choosing her son over him! I thought I might like this character more this season because Hook was going to man up about Nealfire and honor him by saving his son, but that is not what we are getting. I’m helping you for henry, like I’m help with Neal and your Dad to win you not because its the good thing or the fact that I care about any of them. sighs.
"I will be kind but I will speak my mind."
Yes, I get sense of objectification of Emma with Hook. And his behaviors says of course you would choose me, I’m Hook, I always get what I want and that includes you Emma. Sadly I realize that he is not there to save Henry like the others, (at one point thought he was doing what was right in Honor of Bae/Milha but not anymore) he is there to win the prize, to get the girl, to swoon Emma while she is at her weakest most vulnerable moment. If this is suppose to be true love and romance I can’t see it. The fact said I choose my friend to impress you not because I choose my friend because I care about him is just ugh. The fact that he says he you need to make a choice when clearly Henry is the one thing that her heart is set on says something.
Also I think we Swanfires are experiencing what Rumbellers felt in S2, we just got “chipped” and soon we might get “Laceyed”. No one said the Swanfire Journey would be easy and like Snowings and Rumbellers its our time squirmed. The only people who are mostly happy are the Captain Swaners and the fact it just seems so easy and smooth for CS makes me think A &E will pulled the rug from under us and go bam. Got you there didn’t we, her true love is Neal. (Of course that could just my wishful thinking there as well. LOL they easily can see her true love will always be Henry as well.)
Also the conversation between Snow and Charming, “Love is Sacrifice” that is something that A &E hinted at in past interviews, that Neal made the sacrifice his love for Emma to do what’s best. Also Charming admitted to Snow that he was scared. Something that Neal dealt with as well. I don’t see Hook making much of a sacrifice or being really afraid of anything. Sacrifice would be for him to step aside and allowed Neal and Emma to run its course. In fact, he is very confident that odds are stack in his favor because well, “he is Hook, he has many of men’s wives.”
Another thing I noted, Emma choose to sit next to Neal as she choose to go on a mission with him alone. But lovely Hook choose to insert himself and made the duo a trio. (Which I wanted to see partners in crime at it again) And did you catch the look on Emma face, she wasn’t happy about him doing that. But of course gullible lovable Neal, “Thanks Man.” (Neal’s inner thought, wow, Hook is helping to save my son, I was surprise that Hook was here when my dad told me but perhaps he did somewhat cared about me! Awesome!) So she had not other choice but to accept. I think despite being mad at Neal she wanted to work with the father of her child side by side, just like old times, but for a noble mission saving the best thing that came from them, Henry. (remember, this little guy saved us-Swanfire Feels).
Also the fact that Neal apologize and told her she was right and that Henry comes first. (While Hook went off sulking because Emma said she chose her soon, Yeah some women do that buddy). Emma smiled and said with determination, “Now let’s go get “OUR” son.” As long as we have a few burning embers our ship is not dead! I will keep hope alive!
sidenote: why did Hook get attitude for Tink being happy to see Neal all grown up. Does he like to be the center of attention at all times by all women. LOL
"I will be kind but I will speak my mind."
I just can’t believe that Hook would put that kind of pressure on Emma knowing that she has so much going on right now. At least Neal apologize for his actions. And of course hook made the duo into a trio, I think Neal and Emma would have been fine without Hook but I guess its sitll too soon for swanfire fans to get a team up.
"I will be kind but I will speak my mind."
Actually part me feels that Hook outward mourning was his attempt to try and bond with Emma. And he doesn’t seem to really be there for Henry at all, its more I want Emma so I’ll play nice with her son so I can get her???
"I will be kind but I will speak my mind."
