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I have nothing productive to add to this conversation, just that I’ve been watching past episodes and I find myself really not trusting the Blue Fairy 😆
Joking aside, she gives me a vibe, like she is not being completely honest, so all off you theorizing that she is evil might be on to something.
[adrotate group="5"]Red! Of all the fairy tale victim subversions this show has made, her is by far the coolest (Snow is a badass and I love her, but Red wins)
Awesome 😀
Also:
Rumpelstiltskin: He is one of the most complex and well developed villains I’ve ever seen on television. It doesn’t show I like him because I criticize him so much, but I think that is the beauty of this character, you can like him as a multidimensional and well developed individual, yet not agree with his actions, this is what happens when a character truly comes to life.
Belle: She is just so nice! It’s impossible not to like her 😛
If I start listing all the other characters and what I like about them this list will never end, so I’m going to stop here.
I have no idea who wrote the book, and I think we don’t know because they haven’t told us yet on purpose.
But I do like this idea that Belle will be somewhat involved in discovering something about the book and the nature of the library, it does make a lot of sense. It would be nice also from the character standpoint, giving her some purpose outside from her relationship with Rumple.
Yes, but it is not just about punishing of forgiving. For as much as Regina is trying to be better for Henry, she is yet to express any kind of regret for all she’s done, and as I said before, it is a long list. I’m not saying she should be locked up without being given a chance, I’m just saying that everything she did can’t just be erase by her not doing anything else. She has to actually act and show that she is on the side of good, so far she hasn’t done that. She is not helping Charming bring his family back, she is not helping the town in any way. So it really comes down to her fighting her nature, not just not using magic, but fighting her selfishness. All she’s done, since loosing Daniel has been self serving, she thinks of nothing but herself. Henry might be that change for her, that is true, but what happens when Emma comes back, when Henry has his real mother back. I venture say she might not be too happy with that and would probably go back to her old ways.
As for Rumple, I don’t really think he is trying to be better in any way. He is still working just for himself, all he wants is to break the curse so he can go look for Baelfire. With Rumple it would be even harder, because even when he loves Belle, I think they’ve shown he won’t change just for her. He has no true motivation to be good. Though, full disclosure, I don’t really want Rumple to be redeemed, I think that would kill the fun in the character, so that might be influencing my opinion here 😀
Based on what I see of this thread I realize this might be an unpopular opinion but I just can’t get behind Rumple and Belle!
When they redid the Beauty and the Beast story with Rumple and Belle they kept all the markers that made the pairing incredibly creepy. Rumple is abusive towards her, yet she falls in love with him. Sure, he lets her go, but after she comes back he gets really angry and locks her up again. Even as they are parting and she pushes him one more time, he keeps saying horrible things. It’s just unsettling that after that, when she regains her memory in STB, the first thing she does is tell him she loves him.
I don’t doubt that Rumple loves her, but that doesn’t mean he deserves her. Belle is pure sweetness, she sees all the good in people, and that is awesome, but that doesn’t change the fact that Rumple is completely evil. He is manipulative and conniving, and a flat out murderer.
I think there is no way of deciding who is worst and honestly I think neither of them is truly redeemable. No matter what they are doing now, let’s not overlook the fact that they spent years hurting people apparently just for giggles.
Rumple manipulated everyone in FTL for ages, including Regina. While he did all this in the search for Baelfire and we are able to feel for him and his lost, a lot of the things he did where far from justified (like imprisoning Belle, or his apparent hobby of trading babies). Of course, he is The Dark One, so he is by nature evil. It really doesn’t look like they are trying to redeem him though, as he still always seems to have an agenda, but this leads me to Regina.
Regina said she wanted to redeem herself and we know she became evil because she lost Daniel and that is where her hatred for Snow White came from. I get that. Yet, she redeeming herself seems like a path for her dodging the consequences of all she’s done. During season 1 flash backs to FTL we see she hurt a lot of people, imprisoning Belle (again! poor girl has spent more time locked up than free.), separating Hansel and Grettel from their father, trapping Jefferson in Wonderland, killing hundreds, possibly thousands (and Graham!). And lets not forget the curse! Why is everybody in STB forgetting all the horrible things she has done? Why does she all of a sudden deserves a clean break just because Henry loves her (er, or something)?
Don’t get me wrong, I love both of these characters. They are nuanced and complicated villains, I just don’t understand why they are still allowed to walk around STB without answering for their past actions. I do realize capturing them would be a tad complicated given they are the most powerful people there and appear to be the only ones with magic, but it just seems like they are treating them as if nothing happened, in the last episode Henry was alone in the same room with Rumple and Regina, why would they allow that?!
@PriceofMagic wrote:
Kitsis and Horowitz have hinted at in an interview that Belle will confront Regina about what she did.
Oh I want to see that! Belle is always so positive and upbeat, I would like to see her get angry.
@frumpybutsupersmart wrote:
Also, in The Return, when Rumpel was talking to August (who was pretending to be Bae), he said that Bae had “crossed the barriers of time and space”.
Oh, I hadn’t though about that! He did say time. But how could he know what time period Bae went to? All he knew was that he went to a land without magic. But still, what you said makes sense, that could very well be an explanation.
