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My question is… If Blue forged it, how did Beowolf come to be in possession of it? (I know, my questions are pointless).
In the poem, Beowulf gets the sword from Unferth, a servant. This is from Wikpedia on analysis for Unferth
The social taunter has many roles, as has been stated by Thalia Phillies Feldman in her article, “The Taunter in Ancient Epic: The Iliad, Odyssey, Aeneid, and Beowulf.” In a society of kings and warriors, the social taunter acts as the spokesman of the court, revealer of truths, means of social control, and provocateur. Unferth performs these functions, thus fulfilling the role of social taunter. He is able to do so mainly because of his characteristic fast tongue, unabashed speech and wit. The taunter, as opposed to a satirist, is able to make personal attacks on specific characters. He reveals a character’s flaws and failures that other court members may not be aware of, or are too afraid to point out. Unferth does this as he questions the events that took place during the swimming contest. Because of Unferth’s taunt, Beowulf has no choice (in fact it is part of his duty to defend his honour) but to correct Unferth’s version of the story and to rectify himself once again. Unferth’s taunt spurs Beowulf into action and reignites Hrothgar’s and the people’s faith in him. Their exchange also provides dramatic tension between the hero’s arrival and the fight with Grendel
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Sorry but this still doesn’t quite scan for me.
From this moment with Beowulf until the moment Bae leaves the EF, he is living inside Rumple’s house with the dagger, which apparently can exert some measure of influence on non-DO’s. He’s still a “hormonal” teenager with all those emotions of anger, sadness, pity, resentment and fear and moreover he’s watching Rumple get worse and worse, actually going out of his way to main and kill people–the maid, the snail man. But at no point does Baelfire take the dagger and order his father to stop or anything with the dagger. Because that’s who Bae was; he did not recklessly give into dark magic either because it was easy or because of some sort of influence from the One Ring (I mean Dagger)
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Nope. Nopey nope nope nope.
Yeah, the hell was this?! I can literally think of five different ways in which they could have written something in that vein without utterly ruining Bae’s character. I think they did this maliciously and on purpose.
The last time I felt like they totally character assassinated him was the night Nealfire died. And once again it was about how Bae/Neal would never recklessly use dark magic.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"This would explain why Hook didn’t act like a dark one until he was told he was one.
Pretty sure you would find it odd if you didn’t need sleep, memories or no.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"b. Shouldn’t the memory potion have “worn off” once Neal reached the world without magic?
Which would have been when he first landed in Real!London and met the Darlings. And we saw how he was still kind, loving, and self-sacrificing.
I don’t know. My objections and questions are probably pointless and this little moment will be forgotten and it’s not like Neal can respond or explain.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"This sword confuses me. Is it actually a hero’s sword or does it only give the allusion of being a hero’s sword?
Anyone wanna bet Blue forged it as a weapon against Black Fairy??
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"“He should just say, ‘Hold on a second. Before we do this, I should let you know that this is the case,’
Yes. That’s actually exactly what should have happened.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"But that’s exactly my point (and, I think, also AKA’s); the Bae in “The Return” was a Bae who had no memory of ordering Beowulf’s death. He might have developed into a very different person over those months (not to mention a different adult in later years) if he had lived with those memories. That one bad decision might (or might not) have influenced his later life. But Rumple wanted to ensure that it couldn’t affect him.
Ehh….
I still don’t think Bae would have done it in the first place. I don’t buy that he was under duress (no physical threat since Beowulf was literally walking away and Rumple’s solution is one that Baelfire will propose and follow through on in a very short time from these events) or the that dagger was influencing him (he held it for a mere few seconds and it’s never corrupted anyone else who has come into contact with it without them already being poor of soul).
And I stand by the fact that this recasts the Rumple story because he had just proved that he could live without giving into the darkness (he didn’t kill Beowulf, he was going to let him go, he was willing to move to a different town) but because of Bae, he was forced to do something he wouldn’t have normally done and that caused his fall of the wagon, so to speak.
To me, this was some seriously OOC for Bae.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"To be fair, we should remember that we’ve only seen a few minutes of Bae’s character before the events of this episode – when Rumple first became the Dark One in season one’s “Desperate Souls.” Every scene of Bae after that episode would have taken place after he drank the potion.
The potion took him back to pre-Beowulf, back to who he before the daggers apparent influence (if we go with @AKA) so I think it’s safe to say we have a handle of Bae’s character. It was largely established in Desperate Souls and the Return. At every turn he was a boy who believed in his papa, a kind boy, a loving boy, and not someone who was given to moments of violence like this.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
