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Today is the panel, do we have a thread for it yet?
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Lucifer’s been back for a few episodes, so I have been watching that, too
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaas
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Well. That’s certainly an interesting look for the Black Fairy….
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"“The first two scenes today were flashbacks!”
I still don’t know how to take that.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"https://twitter.com/yvrshoots/status/826949018194358272
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Bobby will be filming later. #OUAT
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"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I really need a scene of Henry trying to explain his family tree.
“My mom is Emma and my dad is Neal. He is also called Baelfire; he originally came from the Enchanted Forest but left when his dad–my grandpa, Rumplestiltskin–became the Dark One. Grandpa did this after his wife, my grandma Milah, left him to run off with the pirate, Captain Hook. He’s dating my mom now. Hook, my kinda sorta step-grandfather, not my grandpa, Rumplestiltskin. Though both are equally weird and incestuous. Fun fact! My kinda sorta step-grandfather Hook sold my father Baelfire to Peter Pan in Neverland. Turns out…Peter Pan? Totally my great grandfather. Isn’t that neat? Peter Pan was once called Malcolm and he had some sort of relationship with the Black Fairy. She’s my great grandmother. I’m part fairy! My grandpa Rumple got re married to a nice girl named Belle; they have a new son. His name is Gideon and he’s my…uncle? Step uncle? Now on the other side of my family tree, my mom’s dad is David. He was a farmer. He had a twin but the twin got sold by my Great Grandma Ruth and my other (non step) great grandfather. I don’t know his name. He died in a drunk wagon accident. The twin, my great uncle, was named James. He was raised by King George who is sort of my great grandfather? Who knows, really. Continuing on….my mom’s mom is Snow White. She was born to my other great grandparents Leo and Ava. Ava died when grandma Snow was little and Great Grandpa married Regina. Here’s another really super duper fun fact! Regina’s mom Cora, my non-biological grandma and step Great Great Grandma (more on that in a second!) almost married my Great-Great Grandpa Leo! They like totally made out and stuff. Leo didn’t like her that much in the end and she ended up marrying Henry who is both my grandpa and my step great great grandpa! I’m named after him. Neat, right? Oh. I almost forgot. My step great grandma, Regina? She’s my other mom!”
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"The library is not boarded up so I’m assuming it’s not S1. But they could just have forgotten or the library won’t be a part of the shot.
This is a mess. If it really is Flashbacks, they haven’t even tried to make them look like their Season 1 selves. The costumes are off, the hairs are off (wigs would be needed) and wasn’t David supposed to be in a coma (assuming that it takes place before the pilot)?
I guess there are a few options.
1) S1 flashbacks, after Emma’s arrival and after Charming wakes up from his coma. A and E are just hoping we don’t notice the costume and set differences.
2) Flashbacks to a more recent past–something we didn’t see but need to know now for whatever reason. (For example this flashback takes places during those six weeks between 4A and 4B)
3) The source on set got it wrong and it’s not SB flashbacks.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"es, he killed Isabella, yes we should hate him for it
See, I think it’s perfectly fine to not hate Oswald for this. He’s been fleshed out to such a degree that even when I don’t like his actions–murdering someone–I get why he’s doing it. That’s how you create complex and nuanced characters. Of course he was going to murder Isabella; Fish’s rejection of him, his mother’s death, his father’s death….the only thing he had left was Edward. He’s a selfish man, a fact he stumbled into in the finale. He was clinging to the last person who cared about him because he’s lost *so much.* Murdering Isabella to keep Ed by his side makes absolute sense from a character standpoint. And not to be flippant but Isabella was about as fleshed out as a rock; kinky librarian is really all she amounted to.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
