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This clearly feels like a ratings stunt. I wonder if news of the Flash/Supergirl musical episode also convinced them to finally do one?
A ratings stunt and a check mark off the old “to do before we close up shop” list. Like, I actually believe that somewhere in the writer’s room there’s a list of “frequently asked about things” from the fandom and they’re just trying to tick off as many as they can: Rumple’s mother and the Black Fairy; the return of Tinkerbell; a musical episode. I know that S7 is almost a sure a thing but if it’s not a full 22 season then they need to check off things a little more quickly.
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I have never been in favor of this idea. Here’s why: musical episodes on a non-musical TV show take a certain kind of genius. A Joss Whedon level genius, you might say. Joss took a huge chunk of the 6th season of Buffy off in order to write, compose, rehearse and plan the musical episode. And it was (pardon the pun) pitch perfect.
But it’s not something that can be thrown together over the course of 6-10 days like an ordinary episode; not when your TV show isn’t set up that way. Glee made it work because it was part of the DNA of that show (and I’ll argue that it couldn’t uphold that format for very long…like not past S2). Look at Grey’s Anatomy; that episode didn’t work (for me) and Shonda Rhimes is pretty gosh darn talented.
I don’t think A and E have it in them to write a musical episode (or even just to steal Disney songs and force them into the mouths of the actors) because their show isn’t set up for such a feat. Like….what? Some Big Bad comes to town and curses them all to burst into song? Yeah, they’re already getting hammered with Buffy plagiarism criticisms. Let’s not add fuel to the fire.
Also, it comes across as a desperate attempt to score some ratings points, especially if all they end up doing is taking iconic Disney songs and using them in place of something original.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"So episode 4?
–Mostly pretty good. I think at this stage I’m far more interested in the political machinations and mythology building being done in this version of Oz (so, the Wizard, the Beast, the Witches) than I am about anything concerning Dorothy. I know the two must eventually intersect but I tend to get a bit weary of Dorothy when she’s on screen.
–Dorothy and the Scarecrow kissed. You could see it coming a mile away and I’m not entirely sure it wasn’t too soon but since it’s a limited series, I guess I gotta let it stand.
–The visuals on this show continue to be outstanding.
–“So you’re telling me that my only choice as a girl is as a nun or a whore?” That’s one of the best lines I’ve ever heard. Honest to god, I want that on a t-shirt.
–Glad Jack is alive; turning him into the Tin Man is…weird but I’ll go with it. Who’s the Princess? Help me out, Oz-lore people!
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Editing a new #OnceUponATime -episode — hope to see ya March 5! pic.twitter.com/vGR3ZwAlya
— Adam Horowitz (@AdamHorowitzLA) January 21, 2017
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"? In one scene or two and then on the following epi maybe a hook centric ??
That’s my guess as well. Tiger Lily is a C-plot in 617 and then 618 is a Hook centric.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Add a space to that title and it foreshadows a death.
“A Wake”, an informal memorial service. No? I think double-meanings make good dramatic titles, and this one suggests an unhappy B-story or maybe even the price of magic for restoring Snow and Charming.
Lol, I got what you meant. It’ll be interesting to see if Snow’s role is expanded for the last few episodes of 6B. It sounds like Charming is taking the more active role (being awake) for the first several. Also, wonder how the curse is broken.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"One wonders how she got to SB. Was she in the LoUS?
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"My point was the ABC might test the waters with one of these shows as OUAT’s replacement, especially the supernatural one. OUAT did extremely well for a niche mythology based show on Sunday night’s; ABC needs/wants to be able to replicate that. I’ll be interested to see 1) where these shows end up on the weekly schedule and 2) how their rating do.
ETA: and the same can be said for Hyperion, should it get picked up to pilot. It feels like OUAT’s natural successor.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"At this point, I get a lot more value from the discussions than from the show itself.
Same.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Some interesting pilot news from ABC today
ABC added to its drama pilot orders Thursday, handing out official pickups to a magic drama from Greg Berlanti and the Blindspot team as well as a futuristic war drama from Criminal Minds grads Dan Dworkin and Jay Beattie.
Ordered to pilot are The Crossing, from Dworkin and Beattie, and Deception, from Berlanti, showrunner Martin Gero (Blindspot), magician David Kwong and writer Chris Fedak (Chuck, Forever). David Nutter (Game of Thrones) is expected to direct and exec produce Deception, reuniting with Berlanti after helming pilots for The Flash and Arrow.
The drama, produced by Warner Bros. Television, where Berlanti, Gero and Fedak are under overall deals, landed at ABC with a hefty pilot-production commitment in September following a multiple-network bidding war.
Here’s the official logline: When his career is ruined by scandal, superstar magician Cameron Black has only one place to turn to practice his art of deception, illusion and influence — the FBI. He’ll become the world’s first consulting illusionist, helping the government solve crimes that defy explanation and trap criminals and spies by using deception.
Fedak, currently the co-showrunner on The CW’s Legends of Tomorrow, will pen the script and executive produce. Berlanti and head of his studio-based Berlanti Productions banner Sarah Schechter will exec produce. Gero’s Quinn’s House banner produces. Renowned magician Kwong, who is also a puzzle creator as well as writer-producer and consultant on the Now You See Me films and NBC’s Blindspot, will be credited as a co-producer. Kwong is instrumental in creating the puzzles on Blindspot, with Deception set to mark a reunion for him with creator Gero and Berlanti.
Deception is one of multiple scripts prolific producer Berlanti (Arrow, Flash, Blindspot, Supergirl, Legends of Tomorrow) has in the works this development season, with DC Comics take Black Lightning also expected to get the pilot nod at Fox.
The Crossing, meanwhile, is produced by ABC Studios and will be written and exec produced by Criminal Minds, Revenge and Scorpion duo Dworkin and Beattie, with Jason Reed also attached as an EP.
Here’s the official logline: Refugees from a wartorn country start showing up to seek asylum in an American town. Only the country these people are from is America and the war they are fleeing is 500 years in the future. The local sheriff with a past, a federal agent, and a mother in search of her missing refugee daughter drive this allegory with a surprising conspiracy at the center.
The pickups bring ABC’s drama pilot orders for the season to four. Deception — not to be confused with NBC’s short-lived 2013 drama of the same name — and The Crossing join untitled dramas from Marc Cherry and Shondaland’s Paul William Davies.
With several shows getting the boot/probably getting the boot (Notorious, Conviction, Quantico, Secrets and Lies, possibly AoS) these might be some of the replacement. Interesting that one of them is a supernatural based on; it’s niche like OUAT.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
