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  • August 10, 2013 at 3:41 pm in reply to: K&H Panel at D23 – August 10th (SPOILERS) #204057
    RumplesGirl
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    From our own @angiebelle

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    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    August 10, 2013 at 2:29 pm in reply to: Who is filming now? (SEASON 3) #204052
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    I reckon PP slashed him with his trusty little dagger at some point. Maybe PP was trying to take someone’s shadow, and Felix got in the way.

    Forgot that PP has that little knife. Oh dear. that’s rather horrifying, isn’t it?

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    August 10, 2013 at 2:18 pm in reply to: K&H Panel at D23 – August 10th (SPOILERS) #204048
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    This picture should make HappyEndings happy

    The cane-o-pain!

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    August 10, 2013 at 2:02 pm in reply to: Tv Guide -Regina's love interest #204047
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    Ack, no, I don’t believe in Saint Regina, (and sometimes I wanna reach into the screen and give Snow a good hard shake)! I just think, basically, she’ll be redeemed to the point where people who currently don’t trust her, will trust her. The Charmings will be able to let Henry live with her part time, because they won’t fear for his physical and/or mental safety any more when he’s in her care. She’ll never be a saint, but she doesn’t have to remain evil, either. And if she’s in a relationship with a “good” man who is influencing her, that’s gonna make her redemption to that point of being trustworthy more believable IMO, because we already know she can’t be trusted if left to her own devices.

    This is interesting (and I agree with you about Snow. Sometimes the “perfectly pure goodness” is so extreme and unnatural that I roll my eyes. But I’m a cynic…). Anyway, now that I’ll have die hard Snow fans wanting to kill me…back to Regina?
    Part of me agrees and part of me wonders if you can ever fully trust someone who has tried to kill you so many times. Snow, probably, because that is just part of her nature. Despite what she said in heat of the moment after coming upon the dead bodies of the village in “The Evil Queen” I do think she has always been willing to give Regina a chance, and I think she’ll continue to give her chances. That’s what makes Snow, Snow.
    Charming? I’m so torn with him. On the one hand, he’s incredibly moral like Snow, but not to the point of almost foolishness. I think because he has been the one watching Regina set out to kill Snow, his one true love, he will always be wary of her. He may let Henry into her life, but I think he will continue to keep a close eye on her.
    Emma is a lot like her mother; she’ll give Regina chances because at the end of the day Regina *did* raise her son for 10 years and I have never doubted that Regina does love Henry. She just needs to learn that she can’t have it all. And to share. Sharing is what Regina needs to learn right off the freaking bat.
    One more point, the idea of a man influencing her. This makes me cringe a bit because it almost sounds like she Regina has no agency and can’t change unless someone is there directing her. This was the MAJOR issues I had with “We are Both” where it many people started to claim that Regina was only the way she was because of her Mother and Rumple. But that’s not true. In the end, she chose magic and power, even though she didn’t want to become her mother; she became Cora, right down to the heart collecting. There was something in her that longed for that power, much like Rumple, to deal with feeling powerless in other aspects of their life. Rumple was the village coward and Regina was emotionally beaten by Cora but she still CHOSE to become what she did. She has her own agency and I don’t think you’re trying to take it away, but I really need her to redeem, as much as any addict can and still be true to the character they are, I need her to do it on her own. Which is why I think it’s better for a man who is equally “gray” morally to be there. They’ll understand each other. He won’t be constantly pushing her toward “white-hat good” because she had never been that and to ask her to be that is removing her own agency and forcing her into a mold to which she does not belong.

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    August 10, 2013 at 1:43 pm in reply to: K&H Panel at D23 – August 10th (SPOILERS) #204041
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    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    August 10, 2013 at 1:33 pm in reply to: K&H Panel at D23 – August 10th (SPOILERS) #204040
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    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    August 10, 2013 at 1:25 pm in reply to: Tv Guide -Regina's love interest #204038
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    But, in my opinion, putting Regina with someone that we would label “good” and thus turning her into this “good” person and negating her Evil Queen-ness almost makes her like Snow and Charming and it isn’t true to her character. Even when she was Regina in “Stable Boy” she was still somewhat defiant. She was willing to defy her mother, go against class and social norms. And yes, it was in the name of love, and thus commendable, but still wasn’t a compliant person. She wanted what she wanted. Snow, on the other hand, generally puts people before herself. That’s one of her character traits. Even when she wanted her mother to live, she couldn’t bring herself to kill another person. Snow was willing to die because she felt that she had ruined Regina’s life. Snow and Regina were vastly different even before all their own drama together. We can’t expect Regina to convert to being Snow, which is almost what is sounds like Phee is proposing, a sort of sweeping character development that takes her to saint-like status, such as Snow it.

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    August 10, 2013 at 1:18 pm in reply to: K&H Panel at D23 – August 10th (SPOILERS) #204035
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    Ok, according to the official ABC OUAT FB page, the thing starts at 1pm PST, which is 4pm EST. Go from there if you’re not in that zone.

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    August 10, 2013 at 11:39 am in reply to: The Jolly Roger spoted! #204027
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    The text under the pic looks like:
    EPISODE ART FOR “THE HEART OF THE TRUEST BELIEVER”
    JOLLY RODGER EMERGES

    That’s what it’s gonna look like when the ship comes out of the portal! That’s something I’ve been dying to see! Thank you, Jane!

    Didn’t even spot that! Nice catch. 🙂
    I’m betting we’ll get that as a clip at D23 today. *crosses fingers*

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    August 10, 2013 at 11:26 am in reply to: Tv Guide -Regina's love interest #204024
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    So a page or so back, Phee disagreed with me about how Regina isn’t the Regina of “Stable Boy” anymore and how part of her will always be the Evil Queen. I’ve been mulling over this and it has taken me a good page to respond because I really disagree with Phee’s disagreement.
    Is it not our experiences that shape us? No matter what, she was the Evil Queen and even if she gives up the power that got her to that place, her emotional state has changed wholly from when she was a little girl. Part of her may forgive Snow but the other part of her may always look at Snow and see the death of Daniel, even if she does love again and moves on. Her being, her core, changed in such an extreme measure that even she gets to a place emotionally where she no longer uses her power, she will always feel the need for it, even if she can temper her desires. And it’s not a matter of not developing her character; if she stopped being even the tiniest bit the Evil Queen, or missing her power and the magic, it wouldn’t be believable. That role defined her and identity negotiation is tricky. Better character development would show the constant struggle to stay “good” even in the face of her more evil/cunning desires. That’s believable.
    They have shown us that magic is an addiction and I know there are a lot of philosophies on if addiction is “curable” but I, personally, don’t think it is. Alcoholics can be around alcohol eventually, many many many years down the road, but it’s always a battle. The Evil Queen will always live inside Regina even if she becomes more like her old self. The same can be applied to Rumple. Even if he loses the Dark One’s Curse, he has been changed so much that he can’t ever be the humble spinner he once was. He will probably always miss his power and the courage he thought it gave him, even though he is gradually acknowledging that the desperate clinging to of that power is itself an act of cowardice.
    It’s for that reason that I think Regina needs someone who is equally tortured and not “good” as RH is often depicted. Unless he has been radically changed by the death of Marian, which might be a great guess, I don’t think he and Regina will have common ground.

    So for that reason, and for the larger reason of messing with my beloved “Tamara is the daughter of RH” theory, that I can’t fully get on board team RegalHood.

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
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