[RumplesGirl]

@Betsypaige24 wrote:

I like that the 2 halves are being treated like 2 seasons, except I’m guessing that means no Rumbelle reunion until very near the end of the first half.

I’m thrilled that Belle is getting a storyline, but what does it say about Adam/Eddy that the only way they can give her one is without Gold? I feel like they do “get” how powerful and deep Rumbelle love is, but they have no interest at all in writing them……….just in writing them apart. I mean, please Eddy – their relationship faces a challenge because they’re separated? They have been separated 99% of the time since Skin Deep – what they have is not so much a relationship as it is feelings and moments.

I think the point of this separation is to develop Belle as a character in her own right, then reunite Rumbelle so that Belle can continue to be awesome with Rumple. If they suddenly had Belle being independent as a character with Rumple, it wouldn’t make sense. They have to show her growing individually first, then with Rumple both as one half of Rumbelle and as her own person. My own personal instinct is that after Rumbelle are reunited in S3, they won’t be separated again for awhile.

[RumplesGirl]

@Phee wrote:

I’m not anticipating a full on CaptainSwan romance. I’m anticipating them genuinely becoming close on a friendly level, and then there’ll be that “moment” when they both get weak and give in and it takes them both by surprise. And it’s not long after that that Nealfire shows up. And it’s not long after that that CaptainSwan cool it with the romance, so she can go back and sort things out with Nealfire.

I suppose. I guess that just sounds a little soap opera-y for my tastes, especially on a show about Fairy Tales, drama for the sake of drama, I suppose. I would much rather Hook and Emma know that they do have chemistry but just becomes the best of friends without trying to establish some kind of triangle. Because if they give into it, then those who wants CS will never stop clamoring for it, claiming that the only reason SF is happening and not CS is because Neal suddenly came back.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[RumplesGirl]

I feel like if I ask him, “why are the Darlings in REAL London but Alice is in FICTIONAL London?” the answer I’m going to get will be something like, “magic.”

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[RumplesGirl]

@HappyEndings wrote:

It still doesn’t make sense with anyone having that much control no one has that much power even Rumble or Cora didn’t, I not going with that one one it is a little far fetch in my opinion.

I think it’s a different kind of power. This isn’t magic, which is what Rumple and Cora wield. This is influence and money and back door dealings. That’s what magic looks like in our world, in other words. Rumple can cast spells and curses and wave his hand, but THO can’t do that. They resort to controlling and manipulating situations to suit their own needs (which is exactly what Cora and Rumple do) but they use money and influence instead. And remember, THO works for/is in league with PP who has a substantial amount of power and magic and control, so much so that Rumple is scared of him. I propose that PP is calling the shots, he has seen the future, he knows that he needs Henry, so he’s telling THO exactly what they need to do to ensure that. It’s a series of steps:
1) Make sure Rumple becomes the Dark One
2) Make sure the BF gets Nealfire away from Rumple
3) Get Nealfire to NL and hold him until after the Curse is cast
4) Make sure Rumple knows about the Curse and has the gift of site to see that he needs Regina
5) Make sure Emma is kept away from happy families and grows up alone in order to ensure that she meets Neal and gives birth to Henry.
6) Make sure Henry winds up in SB with Regina.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[RumplesGirl]

@Phee wrote:

PP in our world would be awesome to see. Only reason I question that is that I was thinking just the other day about how perhaps PP needs to be fully defeated before anyone is able to leave NL, because he’s the one who holds the power that keeps everyone trapped there. That would mean that they won’t leave NL behind until they’re done with PP’s part in the story, which would surely last for longer than half a season. That speculation on my part could be completely off of course. Or maybe he does get stripped of his magic before they leave NL, but his now mortal self comes to our world to try and get it back and he wreaks some havoc in SB.

Good point. Unless whatever happens with Rumple, the prophecy, PP, and Henry leads to everyone being able to leave NL because PP didn’t get what he needed to make NL continue to run as it normally would.
The other option is that Neal and Belle get to NL by episode 11 and then we spend the first three episodes or so in NL, with everyone, before fleeing back to SB, where THO is waiting.

@Phee wrote:

No, she doesn’t need to be tied to PP, but she will likely be tied to NL given the mentions of mermaids being there. If she’s introduced while they’re there, her story will need to be addressed in some fashion while they are in NL.

Yes, and as I suspect, if she is still a mermaid when we meet her, she could become human and even make her way to SB with the cast if her life is in danger. Or…she’s enamored of a certain Pirate.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[RumplesGirl]

Do you mean like this? This was from a month ago or so. There is apparently a real and a fictional London. Which makes life a little complicated.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[RumplesGirl]

@HappyEndings wrote:

I doubt if they had anything to do with adoptions, if you look back Emma was stealing a car, her mother Snow was stealing money from a coach they both met their future mates there both where in jail after they meet their mates, so I don’t anyone had or was controling the adoption thing.

Those are just parallels between Snow and Emma that remind the audience that even though she had no idea who she was, Emma was still very much like her mother. It has nothing to do with THO working on the sidelines to keep Emma from ending up in a happy home. She needed to be on her own her whole life so that she meets Neal and conceives Henry.

@PriceofMagic wrote:

She had a family until she was three but what if them having another child wasn’t the only reason why they gave her up. If Emma was demonstrating “magic” at three years old then her first family may have worried about it around their new baby especially as Emma could have resented the new baby hence Emma had to go. The HO could have kept track of Emma whilst she was in the system but lost her when she left the system. Emma’s arrest in Tallahassee for the watches may have been in the papers which could have brought her back to the HO’s attentio

That’s a cool idea. And at 3, Emma is hardly likely to be able to remember any of it.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[RumplesGirl]

I don’t know about that, PriceofMagic. She might begin the healing process by opening up to Hook, but I don’t know if they’ll be in a full on romance by episode 11–if that’s when the reunion happens. I think Hook and Emma will be best friends, but I don’t know if anything romantic is going to be happening anymore. I had predicted it, but that was before the portal scene. I just can’t see Emma moving on *that* quickly.

EDIT

That’s not to say that Neal and Emma won’t have obstacles. I want them to have them. I just don’t know if that means Hook anymore.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[RumplesGirl]

@Phee wrote:

@RumplesGirl wrote:

I agree for sure that THO will be invading SB and part of S3 will be contending with them. Tamara’s grandmother being Dorothy would make sense t-word wise, but I won’t lie: my head refuses to let go of the idea of RH and Marian being family.

Oh I’m still on board with that possibility too. When I talk about Tamara’s grandma possibly being Dorothy, I’m thinking of it in an adoptive sense. Like everyone Tamara’s age who works for THO knows the boss as “grandma” because she’s the kind lady who believed their talk about magic and took them in and gave them a new “family” by recruiting them for the cult.

I really like that because I think THO has been responsible for a lot of the “adoption” storylines: Tamara (possibly), Henry and even Emma. I think THO stepped in every time a nice family wanted to adopt Emma into a loving home, if they hadn’t she never would have met Neal and never had Henry. I think what Neal called “fate” is really THO playing a long con for PP.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[RumplesGirl]

@lostwithme wrote:

I want to see Tinker bell! She’s always been my favorite from the Peter Pan story. She better be sassy!

I get the feeling she’s going to be pretty sassy evil. I think Tink may be the bad fairy who gave Snow the magic dust we saw waaaaay back in Snow Falls.

@lostwithme wrote:

I want to see ChildEmma and ChildBelle flashbacks.

Wholeheartedly agree, especially with Child Emma. We know it wasn’t a happy upbringing and I want to see how much THO directed her life from the sidelines. Did they make sure she was never adopted into a loving home? If she had been, she would never have met Neal and thus no Henry.

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