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Keymaster[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"RumplesGirl
KeymasterSo re: deleted scenes/canon. Does canon means that a scene happened, but we didn’t see it, whereas non canon is it didn’t happen and has essentially the same status as a blooper or alternative ending — is that correct?
For this, a non canon deleted scene mean we can see it but it doesn’t factor into the story so you can’t use anything the scene says in terms of character, plot, ect for the story you see air live.
Anyway, if ever I suspected that Adam and Eddy might actually have artistic integrity — or a consistent vision for OUAT — I am now relieved to be disabused of this notion.
Pretty much that
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"RumplesGirl
KeymasterThe caption from a photo:
“Belle calls to Rumple to lift the spell.”
1) What spell
2) How did Rumple and Belle get back to SB?
3) How did Rumple get her out of the box?
4) Are they back together?
5) Whyyyy are they on the JR?
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"August 16, 2016 at 9:31 pm in reply to: TVLine 8/16 – Snow Is Haunted By a Past Evil — Fall TV First Look #326671RumplesGirl
KeymasterLittle does the princess/warrior know, something that Regina’s regal self did in the past is poised to also come crashing down around her.
Okay?
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"RumplesGirl
KeymasterSoooooo Bobby’s doing the wig-thing right?
Also, again being on the JR…still doesn’t make sense.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"RumplesGirl
KeymasterI definitely agree that Eddy and Adam have no respect for their fans or their audience and have no respect for our intelligence. They seem to think we don’t understand what is going on, when the show is just so inconsistent there is just nothing to understand. That is why we can’t bring in deleted scenes. The canon scenes are inconsistent enough without adding in deleted scenes which were cut for reasons. There is nothing to dissect, no details to try and figure it, nothing that happens has any special meaning for the future, literally anything can happen, because the show is just completely inconsistent from one moment to the next, nothing that happens has any meaning.
THAT is really my whole point in why I’m angry this morning. If they had said from the get go that the deleted scenes were not canon and the only thing that IS canon is the actual aired show, then so be it. But the fact that they can change their mind based on whims, reactions, or to save face is infuriating. They get to pick and chose what is and what isn’t relevant–like the books are apparently canon (which are littered with contradictions to the actual aired show!) but item B isn’t. Okay, well why is that a rule? Oh right. I’m not supposed to question anything.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"RumplesGirl
KeymasterI heavily believe that the reason that he has decided to say this is because one of the S5 deleted scenes must heavily contradict a big plot point during Season 6. I honestly don’t see any other reason why he’d just suddenly decide this
Maaaaaybe but I’ve seen them all and I keep as up to date on spoilers as anyone, and I seriously can’t think of any deleted scene that contradicts anything going on in S6. At least not to the extent that they need to, at the drop of a hat, literally overnight, un-canon the whole of the deleted scenes from all the DVDs.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"RumplesGirl
KeymasterGood heavens. Fine here’s a transcript of it.
The scene in question is 3 mins and 23 seconds.
*The scene opens with Regina and Robin the Uunderworld loft. Regina is clearly blocked and cannot use her magic. *
*Emma enters and questions why Regina can’t use her magic. Emma worries their plan–to split her heart–will not work if Regina has no magic*
*Regina tells Emma she knows why she is blocked*
Regina: “This place hardly has good, positive energy. Every person I ever killed is here. My father, the Blind Witch, enough villagers to make a crazed mob.”
Emma: “And Daniel? That’s where this all started, right? Are you worried he’s down here or not down here?”
Regina: “I moved on.”
Emma: “Moving on and being over someone are two very different things. Maybe that’s what is holding you back. That you did move on. When we were on our way to the Underworld, I saw Neal.”
Regina: “What?”
Emma: “When I passed out, it was a vision or…a visitor…I don’t know what it was. But I saw him. My first love and I suddenly felt this immense guilt that I was coming down here to save my new love.”
Regina: “What did he do?”
Emma: “He gave me the greatest gift I could ask for….he said it was okay. Maybe being this close to Daniel is what is blocking you.”
The “okay” is NOT about going to the Underworld. It’s about loving again. It’s reassurance not permission. There is a lot of context around the scene.
AGAIN…this anger is not about one scene. It’s the principle.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"RumplesGirl
KeymasterAlso, Matt pointed this out to me last night, but they have, in the past, referenced the deleted scenes in the actual canon-show (that which airs live). So….how does that stack up with canon??
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"RumplesGirl
KeymasterOkay, deleted scenes being “not final drafts.” Sure, I get that, but I repeat: 90% of those deleted scenes aren’t plot-explanations, they’re character moments. Character moments that, for the most part, make sense and add to the enrichment of the characters, not detract!
And, do I seriously again need to point out the number of contradictions and obviously flaws in the books that are somehow canon??
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