[RumplesGirl]

@obisgirl wrote:

Judging from the shocked look on Snow’s face in one of the pics, I think someone looses their heart in the showdown. And I hate to say it and I know it’ll anger evil regals but the episode is called, The Queen is Dead. I think Cora might take Regina's heart and crushes it, killing her.

I can’t see the writers doing that. Lana and Regina are pretty important to the show. Plus Regina is in the next episode, trying to get Rumple's dagger, with Cora

[RumplesGirl]

If you guys got Robert Carlyle I would skip class and school, hole up in my room with my laptop and just sit in our chat room waiting to hear that man’s mellifluous voice. Not even kidding.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[RumplesGirl]

I am super excited for the Regina/Cora vs. The Charmings show down!!

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[RumplesGirl]

Well, Belle knew that Rumple had once had a son, but before the curse she didn’t know more than that he had lost him

Yes, but she only knew because she lived in the Dark Castle with him for a time, and Rumple held on to Bae’s clothing. No one else had the pleasure of living with Rumple.

OTH, Smee knew a lot back then. It probably took a while for Rumple’s web of deals to get so complicated that only he could follow it well enough to know what his ultimate goal was.

Smee had heard whispers of his son, and when Smee and Rumple met in the tavern it wasn’t too long after Rumple had lost Bae in the first place, so not enough time had passed for people to forget Bae altogether.

Cora knows about Bae now, but she may have gotten that information from Hook, and both of them may have figured out what’s going on from Smee + previous knowledge + Rumple’s behavior when they got to Storybrooke (the spyglass etc).

I will grant that Cora knew about Bae, absolutely. But I think that had more to do with Cora and Rumple’s relationship, whatever it was. I don’t think she was the one passing information off to August.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[RumplesGirl]

@obisgirl wrote:

I would buy that the Blue Fairy told August, or maybe he heard rumors about someone from FT land going to another land without magic and found out it was Rumpel’s son.

But I don’t believe that Blue would have able to retain her FT memories.

But my understanding is that no one except Blue knew about Rumple’s son, including Regina, because she didn’t understand why Gold was suddenly turning against her and her curse in SB and supporting Emma. She didn’t know about Bae and if she didn’t then I don’t know how anyone else could. Cursed Archie also didn’t know because Regina made Cursed Gold childless, assuming that’s what he was. The only one who knew about Bae was Blue (and now Hook, I suppose). August had to get his information from somewhere, and as far as we know before he went through that wardrobe, Pinocchio didn’t know anything about Bae, just like the rest of FTL. So it had to happen AFTER he went through the wardrobe and the only one who knew that information was Blue, who had mysterious “final preparations” right before the curse hit, which I think was getting Bae from Neverland to our world.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[RumplesGirl]

I think you make a good point about Rumple, Keb. It’s very possible that Rumple’s gotten close to finding Bae, closer than Bae would be comfortable with. We know Rumple was very close when he almost got the bean from Hook and Milah in the Crocodile, only to be thwarted by Hook. If Bae was still in communication with someone from FTL (like Blue) then he would know what Rumple was up to and could plan accordingly (because surely Blue knew what Rumple was doing, unless she really is that ineffective at her job or has her own hidden agenda, which I’ve been suspecting ever since The Return and The Stranger).
As far as Blue and her memories: you’re right. There is no definitive moment to point to and go “Ah-ha! She has her memories,” but their might be hints in her open hostility to Rumple from “The Return” and the fact that she is supposed to be the most powerful “good” magic in FTL, yet she couldn’t do anything about the curse, especially given that Good always wins?? She’s either got her own agenda or really ineffective.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[RumplesGirl]

@Phee wrote:

When we first got the casting call for Barrett, my initial thought was that he’d be a normal person, and I certainly don’t have any problem with them introducing normal people as long as they have a cool way to do it. I just think that in the case of Tamara in particular, they’ve already gone to the trouble of establishing just how much outsiders are not welcome in SB, when they had to have a discussion about whether or not to let Greg just die, just in case he saw something. We’ve seen pics from set of Tamara in SB, standing around watching something seriously magical going on. I can’t see how she’d have been in that scene if she wasn’t someone with prior knowledge of magic.

I guess we could hypothesize that Neal told her about magic and who he is, but I don’t think that fits with his character. He’s been running from all that crap (his words) for a very long time and if he never told Emma (who I believe is his true love) then I doubt he’s going to tell Tamara.
If she is Tinkerbell, I wonder if she has access to fairy dust or her wand.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[RumplesGirl]

@AngieBelle wrote:

I’m not thrilled with the ideal that Neal has a fiance, but I’m certainly not surprised. They aren’t going to make it too easy for Emma and Neal to end up back together. I’m still hoping they do in the long run though.

I rather hope Tamara is not a fairytale character. Everyone keeps trying to make everyone connected to a story- what’s wrong with having some characters who actually *are* from our world?

What you said made me think of something. If she is a FTL character (Tink/Tiger Lily, the Frog Princess, ect.) then where was she while Neal was with Emma? You would think that they would stick together, especially if she’s Tinkerbell to Neal’s Peter Pan. If they both came through (wherever they came through) together, they would probably stick together, being in a new land and everything.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[RumplesGirl]

Every time someone poses a questions like this my first reaction is always: Blue Fairy.

We have to find a common thread.
1)Blue knew Bae, helped him escape Papa Rumple after he became the Dark One.
2) Blue knew Pinocchio, turned him into a real boy and probably figured out at some point that Gepetto broke their deal and sent Pinocchio through the wardrobe.

Because Baelfire lived so long ago, there are no other connections with characters that we’ve seen thus far. He doesn’t know the Charmings or Red/Granny, the dwarves, ect. The only other person Neal and August have in common is Emma, and she did know who either of them were until very recently.
I believe Blue has had her memories this entire time and has had August working for her outside of SB, including telling August about Emma and Neal.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[RumplesGirl]

The fact that she’s in those pictures watching August turn back into a boy again makes me think either Neal has come clean about everything to her (not good news since he entrusted her with his secrets but not Emma) or she’s FTL. It also looks like at that point he is still very much with her. I would hate it is he had been pretending to be engaged to her all that time to get Emma jealous and ended up falling for her. I would see red. lol Her character description says she goes after what she wants until she gets it…My guess is that she’s in Storybrook to ensure that Neal remains hers…if she is the frog princess maybe she’ll get turned into a frog and get squashed. 😈 What?…I have a little bit of Regina in me…what can I say. 😆 Greg also has an option for next year in his character description by the way.

I understand the frog squashing bit. I said this in a previous thread about Tamara but I’m trying really hard not to hate her just based on these tiny spoilers we’ve gotten. But I’m failing at it. If she’s from Neverland (Tink or Tiger Lily at this point) then 1) how did they get to NYC? (I’m still of the opinion that Blue is Tinkerbell and she brought NealFire Pan to NYC before the Dark Curse hit, one of those final preparations she told Gepetto about) and 2) why did they both come? And why not bring all the Lost Boys with them?

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