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KeymasterMaybe I missed something….why exactly did Hades kill Arthur anyway?
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"RumplesGirl
KeymasterI am wondering if the Zeus had no ability to do anything for Robin due to the factor it was the crystal that took his life and so their was nothing to revive.
Of course that’s the explanation but this show can literally wave anything into and out of existence. They MacGuffin things all the time. The writers are choosing not to do anything about Robin.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"RumplesGirl
KeymasterAnd the problem for me this episode was that if we were to put Robin and Hook on a scale next to each other, Robin would win – never really the villain, always putting others first, the father of two young children one of whom is now an orphan.
This is it right here. I said it a either here or another thread, but they are saying that Hook’s life is worth more than Robin’s (even if it’s not their intention). People might believe Hook is redeemed and that’s fine, he’s still someone who committed murder many times over, lied, cheated, stole, shot innocent women, threatened innocents, and other nasty things. Robin’s crime is that he’s boring. That’s it. If Zeus has the power to bring people back from the dead (and even non existence because this show can handwave anythig in and out of existence)….then it should be the boring father of two who never did anything really horrible outside of a wonky code of honor and some indecisiveness.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"RumplesGirl
KeymasterI think Arthur’s real quest for redemption is just starting. He’s going to set the UW to rights. At least, that is how it sounded. Does that make Arthur the new Lord of the UW?
Yes it does make him the new Lord of the UW. But…like, why should we care? How do we know Arthur’s gonna fix it all up? What if he turns into Hades 2.0? This is such a silly plot line (and I can’t even really call it a plot line because it’s not; it’s a beginning, middle, and end, of the Arthur: King of the Underworld plot and it won’t ever be reexplored).
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"RumplesGirl
KeymasterYeah, that’s the thing. It’s not like Robin is the most interesting, dynamic, or vital character on this show. He’s really been under developed and it feels like the writers were just bored with him and didn’t know where to go with him next (so DEATH!) But there is something so…twisted about this idea that one semi-good-semi-helpful action allows a man who has committed multiple murders (some even very recently) to come back but allows the boring-but-mostly-good guy to stay dead (thus making fathersless two innocent kids in the process). I mean, Zeus is judge and jury here–does that mean he’s judge and jury for the Underworld too? Is it his flame that judges people and decides where they will go–the good or bad place? Why does Zeus get to decide what happens to Hook? And while he’s at it, why can’t Zeus (since he’s apparently our God-insert who can actually do these miraculous things) just bring back Robin with a wave of his hand since he seems to have literal control over life and death?????
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"RumplesGirl
KeymasterBut IS he going to the bad place? It seemed to me like his helping Hook was his “Redemption”
I refuse to accept that one quest = redemption.
Especially for THIS character who is just so….icky."He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"RumplesGirl
Keymaster*hands @WickedRegal a drink* I’m sorry you lost your guy and your ship tonight.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"RumplesGirl
KeymasterI’m trying to see how Hook even helped in taking Hades down? Zelena would have made the choice of Regina over Hades without even seeing those pages, it told her nothing new because Hades had already explained to her it’s power! So how does Zeus think Hook assisted in killing Hades when Emma never killed him, and the pages literally played no part in it!
The way I understood it….Hook put the pages into the book; the pages explained to Emma that a god can be killed with the Olympian Crystal.
…which Zelena knew because Hades told her. So yeah, those pages played no part. Zelena didn’t need this vital information, only Emma/Regina did. So I guess Hook helped in the sense that the heroes needed to know but Zelena, the actual one to pull the metaphorical trigger, didn’t.
So.
Hm.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"RumplesGirl
KeymasterHe makes my skin crawl. However does he really get to elect himself King of the Underworld just to stave off his eventual “bad place” punishment???
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"RumplesGirl
KeymasterMy answer won’t surprise anyone but it’s a no. I don’t know that one deed (helping to stop Hades by putting some pages in a book) is enough to undo everything that has come before (and a lot has come before…including a lot of murders) because: does the punishment and reward system really work like that? If I murder my mother but rescue a cat from a tree are my sins wiped clean?
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