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Keymastermy Manson as Merida, Liam Garrigan as King Arthur,
…okay. At the very end of the episode maybe? And carries over to 522/23?
David Hoflin as Zeus
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"RumplesGirl
Keymaster(she kept the pendant until S3b)
No, she didnt, she had him until S4 finale, you can clearly see when she sacrifices herself for the darkness she has the 2 necklaces, she didnt gave Henry the swan necklace, you can even see it on epi 319 and even on the time travel episode on S3 b. JMo said that after emma became DO, those necklaces and the shoelace were gone, she even said, well they are not gone gone, in her mind Emma put those into her memory box.
Okay, okay. I misremembered.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"RumplesGirl
KeymasterI’m sorry but Emma isn’t giving up her life for Belle. She’s barely even friends with her. To me, she would do it for her parents, her son Henry, and Regina, her closest friend. Hook is none of those things. So it had to be true love for her to sacrifice herself. At least that’s what I think they are going for here, and I can at least sort of understand it.
She’s the Savior. She’s willing to give up her life for anyone, though. That’s her whole cosmic significance. She’s willing to take on the darkness, face any foe, for the the town, her family, her friends, and just the general principle of “good” because at the end of the day, she’s an archetype. I’m not saying she doesn’t love Hook but in terms of confirming TL, it was a weird way to go about it because 1) Emma’s very essence as TL incarnate should be enough and 2) substitute Hook out for anyone that Emma feels a personal or cosmic sense of obligation to and it would still work (and should work no matter what because of the aforementioned TL Incarnate)
ETA: and this is to say nothing of the fact that when the right moment for a TLK did come along–at the elevator, meaning there was no agenda or goal at the end, unlike the hug-tackle previously with a specific goal on the line–the writers still didn’t use their ace in the hole (TLK) on CS. So, yes I think the writers were going for TL confirmation, but they did it in the weirdest way possible.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"RumplesGirl
KeymasterIt would be fast, but I think it could work. Althought we really need some sort of motivation here. Could Robin die by accident? Gets in the line of fire somehow? How crazy would it be if he sacrificed himself for Regina, or even Zelena?
But does it work with the rest of the episode–like Zelena/Emma showdown (which only make sense if Emma kills Hades after Hades did something dastardly)?
We didn’t have any SB pics of Zeus so him suddenly being in present day SB doesn’t make sense unless it was done indoors (always a possibility).
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"RumplesGirl
KeymasterI suppose the full PR will be out a bit later (with guest stars)
the all-powerful Olympian Crystal
Oh sweet baby Jesus. A never before seen or heard of device. How shocking
while Hook does the same in the Underworld, looking for those missing storybook pages
Oh right. I forgot about that plot
which culminates in an epic showdown that will leave our heroes forever changed.
Yes, yes. Robin dies.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"RumplesGirl
KeymasterIn a deleted scene she gave Amnesiac Henry the swan necklace. But Henry doesn’t really need to know where he came from, right? He’s whole family is right there–Grandpas, Grandma, two moms, and various step relations.
I’m talking about pre-season 1 Henry.
Then, no. Emma wouldn’t even hold him or look at him and she had nothing really to give him (she kept the pendant until S3b). And Regina got Baby!Henry when he was like…what…7 or 10 days old IIRC.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"RumplesGirl
KeymasterBut how did Zeus get past? If they try to tell me that Zeus and Hera have true love, I’ll laugh until my sides hurt.
If Zeus created the test then it might have no effect on him. Kind of like how, because Pan created the magic cuff it had no effect on him.
And the purpose of the Zeus created test was to…what? Make sure Hades never left because there was no way (in Zeus’ mind) that Hades could ever have true love? I guess that makes sense but that’s a whole lot of plot that needs answered in the next week or so.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"RumplesGirl
KeymasterWhy does Lily keep calling baby emma on the flashbacks, when back in 2009 she had 26 years old.
Well that’s just a joke. She’s Baby!Emma from the perspective of Emma now.
Just thought about this. Emma was so gung-ho on finding out where she came from and gave that other girl the photos of Cleo so she would know where she came from yet at this point in time Emma has already abandoned a young Henry. Did she give him anything so that he would know where he came from?
In a deleted scene she gave Amnesiac Henry the swan necklace. But Henry doesn’t really need to know where he came from, right? He’s whole family is right there–Grandpas, Grandma, two moms, and various step relations.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"RumplesGirl
KeymasterWhat if Hades was talking to Zeus, but Zeus kills Robin?
For what purpose, though? The only thing we know of Zeus so far is what Hades has told us and he’s not exactly a reliable narrator.
Disney like to turn the villains into heroes, so why not do the same with Hades and Zeus.
So a character we’ve never met before, hasn’t bothered our characters at all, comes out of the woodwork for one episode to kill a main cast member when you have, on the other hand, the lord of the Underworld, arc villain, who just happens to be in love with the dead character’s baby momma? I mean there’s lazy writing and then there’s that idea.
I don’t particularly want Hades to kill anyone either, but for it to be Zeus wouldn’t make any sense from any sort of narrative perspective.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"RumplesGirl
KeymasterHe brought his nephew Anteros with him. Like Emma, a personification of True Love.
Sure why not.
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