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SpoilerTV has a really great cancellation predictor table they use: LINK
The closer a show gets to a 3.0 (on the table) the more likely it is to be cancelled. Right now, OUAT is sitting in the green, meaning it’s “safe” BUT if you look at the number it’s being given 2.82, we are very close to the dreaded 3.0/cancellation prediction. This is going to be something to keep an eye on moving forward into S5
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Final Live+SD ratings are in for episode 501 “The Dark Swan”
We rose in overall viewers slightly, to a 5.93 million but kept our 1.8 in the demo.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I have a lot to respond to, but I think instead I’ll answer my own questions as a way to respond. 🙂
1) How would you classify Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone?
Obviously I have issues calling HP:SS children’s literature. I agree with Jo that “children’s lit” is not all sunshine and daises but I do think there is a difference between what is easily classified as kid lit and HP. Dahl is a great example of darker kids lit, but I think the major difference is that while the protagonists in the book are very down on their luck (poor, hungry, abused) their mortal lives are never in true danger. Charlie (from, “and the Chocolate Factory) might be dirt poor, but his family loves him, truly. He has the good bits of life even if it’s a struggle. His life is never really in danger; there is no looming threat of death via another person. James (from “and the giant peach”) has abusive aunts and he is, like Charlie, poor, and in his case miserable but I never felt like his aunts were going to do him deathly harm. With Harry, there is a real (very real) sense that his mortal life is in danger for all 7 books. Because there is that “will he die or not” tension, I have issues calling it kid lit because while there is drama and angst in kid lit, there is a lack of death tension that permeates so much of Harry’s life.
2) Thinking about the series as a whole, where do you rank HP: SS?
Gosh, I don’t know why I asked this…cause I don’t know. It’s probably closer to the bottom than the top. It was interesting going back and re-reading for this project because while I obviously did fall in love with the series when I was growing up, SS does show that this is JKR’s first ever novel and there is a bit of a juvenile quality to her writing; less detail, less introspection.
Which brings me to…
3) What do you think of JKR’s writing in this first book? Does it suffer from being her first published work?
Like I said, her writing in this book isn’t as rich as it will become. But that’s perfectly fine; writers are supposed to get better. JKR did a great job building the HP world in the first book, but her descriptions and her dialogue and her action sequences get better as the series moves forward. Her writing is very “first time author” in this book. It doesn’t suffer from it, but it’s easy to point to how she got better.
4) What surprised or shocked you the most in re-read of book 1?
Dumbledore. I still love him, but re-reading the first book in a very long time (and I think my first time since I finished book 7) really opened my eyes to how tricksy he can be.
Petunia, also. She really is a piece of work. It takes me being an adult to really see it now. I always disliked her but now I really see how terrible she is.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"It would be very fitting given the cyclical history of parents hurting their children who grow up to hurt their children theme. I could see it happening but my major stopping point is “what next?” What happens after you put the darkness into a baby. We did the Lily storyline. We’ve had Zelena as the big bad. We’re still an 8pm Disney show run by the Great Mouse, so they aren’t going to have our gang kill a baby and to have a baby be the Big Bad (a newborn, really) would be….a level of stupid that this show has not yet reached.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Oh gosh, isn’t he adorable.
As to that AU, no one will ever be able to convince me that it wasn’t supposed to be Neal coming and finding Emma with her parents. It was always supposed to be Neal saying “I couldn’t save my papa, but I can help save you. I won’t let this destroy your heart.” or something.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"My issue with TLK and Emma right now is that she shouldn’t need it. She is TL Incarnate; she shouldn’t actually need any assistance from anyone. Her own magical and powerful self should be enough if TL really is the most powerful there is. I really (really really really reallyreally) don’t wan her curse to be broken via TLK–from anyone.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"What do y’all think the Scooby Gang did?
Took away her freedon and made her crush someone’s heart.
Agree with the first and second, disagree with the whom. I don’t know if it was the Scooby Gang. I have some suspicions about our Camelot crew.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"My opinion is this: ABC put OUAT on notice. The execs told A and E that if they didn’t bring in some numbers for S5, then this would be their last. They wanted a little bit of a jump in the premiere and a small decline, landing only slightly below where they ended in S4 (1.8). But that didn’t happen. So I suspect that A and E had a meeting/have a meeting soon in which ABC makes it official: S5 is the end. The marketing team will start pushing “this is the end!” material right before the 100th
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I think our only hope now is that Netflix will save us and give us another season after this one.
But would you really want one? I mean…this is the perfect way to go out. The Darkness is done; the Savior fulfilled her ultimate destiny; her monomyth is complete. She gets to live happily ever after, her family reunited and restored. There’s…nothing left to tell except to keep inserting new Disney characters for “reasons”
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