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KeymasterRumBelle is not abusive
Physically? No. Emotionally, absolutely. He toys with people the same way he toys with words. He put her through the wringer. He lied to her. He manipulated her. He used her. He is going to destroy people she cares about. He HURT HER. He made her doubt herself. He made her not trust her instincts. Not all abuse is physical. And now he thinks that he can simply rewrite his happy ending using the Author to have it all–giving her NO CHOICE in the matter.
TV is escapism
No, it’s really not. It’s not a way to escape your life. It holds a mirror up to that life and asks you judge it. It is not a way to simply ignore the world around.
ETA: I took me half an hour but I finally found what I was looking for. From my “Love and Romance” thread of a year ago. This is from @Myril and it encapsulates what I’m saying.
Escapism or grounded in the real world? You can’t decently escape unless you can identify with characters and/or story, and a character can be someone you would wish to be like or someone who is in many ways like you are but doing things better (most of the time). Be it one or the other, characters have a connection to us as we are in the real world. Furthermore even if a show is meant as escapism it reflects on the real world and its issues, if we like that or not, if we are aware of it or not. It doesn’t matter if an audience wants to take a fictional show as something reflecting on their reality, it always does anyway, questioning or upholding believes and views and societal images. And we never can watch or read fiction without our very own bias, based on our believes and experiences.
believe it or not most people can distinguish between a work of fiction and actual reality
Really? Golly, tell me more!
Of course they can. EXCEPT when they realize that the work of fiction is incredibly problematic but refuse to call it as such because it makes them uncomfortable to acknowledge that something they love is super problematic. People will bury their heads in the sand and refuse to call a spade a spade because they don’t want to face the fact that a piece of media they love is sending out a lot of red flags.
People don’t just dumbly accept the media they are fed.
…yes they do.
No really. They do. It’s only quite recently (thanks in large part to social media) that dissenters are becoming more widely recognized. You know how I know that people dumbly accept the media they are fed? Because TV hasn’t been shut down or revamped but instead falls into the same pitfalls that it always had Because when those dissenters point out the moral and ethical flaws in a relationship–whatever relationship it is–people instantly get defensive when it’s something they love because again, they don’t want to acknowledge that something they love and care about is morally and ethically problematic.
Ship what you’re going to ship. That has always been our motto ’round these parts. But it doesn’t mean that you should turn a blind eye to how it’s being presented. Because the fact is, it’s being presented horrifyingly.
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"RumplesGirl
KeymasterI agree. Also, I don’t think ANY couple on the show are really ones you would ever support in real life but something about the show being heightened fiction enables the audience to have a kind permission to ship in a way they wouldn’t do in their every day life.
The fact that we feel we need “permission” to ship anything on this show really says it all: it’s wrong, it’s amoral, and it’s not something that should be promoted as true love. Every TV show is heightened fiction. You know what else is heightened fiction? 50 Shades of Grey, a story that is absolutely couched in rape culture and misogyny (not to mention butchering the English language). This isn’t just “heightened fiction”–it’s a fictionalized version of real world examples of abusive relationships where cycles of violence and abuse and manipulation are never broken.
The fact that we hand wave it away with “yeah, this relationship is super problematic and I would never ever support it real life because of how problematic it is, but I totally can support it here on TV where it doesn’t matter…” again, says it all. TV is not your cue to turn off your brains. It is your chance to analyze the world around you and what media says we should support, not support, and how we should feel.
If Belle goes back to Rumple because “we redeemed him with some magic this-that-or-the-other” then it’s promotion of an abusive relationship as true love. It’s terrifying to think that little girls and boys are watching this show and thinking “oh so this all totally okay.”
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"RumplesGirl
KeymasterI simultaneously laughed and cried
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"RumplesGirl
KeymasterAnd yeah, that’s one of the many problems with CS. Henry is basically a non-existent part of that relationship, and when he is present in some way, Hook is either displaying stunningly stupid behavior with him, or Henry is highlighting that he doesn’t like Hook. It’s not even about making everything Emma does about Henry, and it’s not necessarily a bad thing for a person to have parts of their lives that aren’t all about their kids. But when you’re in a serious relationship with someone and your kid basically disappears not just from the equation, but your life? There’s something wrong with that.
From THIS very well written compilation of posts on Tumblr this morn’.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"RumplesGirl
KeymasterHappy Saturday!
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"May 1, 2015 at 7:27 pm in reply to: EW 5/1 – OUAT bosses: Emma faced with a big sacrifice in the finale #303432RumplesGirl
KeymasterHmm. Baby Names, eh?
Baby Plot Device
Baby Home Wrecker
Baby Bad Storyline
Baby Soap Opera (Soapy for shot)
Baby Who’s Future Is Probable Going To Be Therapist Fueled
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"RumplesGirl
KeymasterI mean WOW. Shakespeare, step aside, bro. Clearly you are NOT the most eloquent of English wordsmiths. Check out THOSE slick beats. Mmhmm. That’s the kind of language that makes me raise American flags and bake apple pies.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"May 1, 2015 at 7:03 pm in reply to: TVLine 5/1 – Creators Talk Baby Bombshell, Belle's Confused Heart, And More #303426RumplesGirl
KeymasterTVLINE | Can you promise in these final three hours any similarly grandly romantic scenes between any characters?
KITSIS | I would say that we probably have at least two more. And a third one is romantic in its own way.Third one is Rumple dying in Belle’s arms
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"May 1, 2015 at 7:01 pm in reply to: ET Online 5/1 – Scoop on Regina and Robin's Baby Mama Drama #303424RumplesGirl
KeymasterKitsis continued, “If I had any advice for Outlaw Queen fans, it would be to watch Sunday and to watch it live. It’s obviously an interesting dilemma because he’s put in a very tough situation.
No eddy. It’s not a tough situation. It’s an impossible one. You literally haven’t given Robin any kind of way out that doesn’t make him look simply HORRIBLE.
Pick Regina? Abandons baby.
Pick Zelena? Abandons Regina and True Love/Soul Mate/whatever
Picks up and Roland and flees? Abandons Regina AND baby
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"RumplesGirl
KeymasterTHAT IS THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT SCRIP TEASE IN THE HISTORY OF TEASES.
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