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Yeah, but this show has never successfully transitioned in a new character. All the characters that came on later in the show are disliked and are not written for. I can’t imagine them being able to successfully integrate a likeable character at this point. Their characters have all become some unlikable.
Main characters, billed as starring, that were brought in after the Pilot have been August, Belle, Red, Neal, Will Scarlet, Robin, and Zelena. I would agree that Will and Robin especially weren’t written very well and perhaps only gained minimal fans, but August, Neal, Belle, Zelena and even Red have all had sizable fan bases. I think it’s at least possible to bring in a few new characters and write them well who could gain fans. The key will be for A and E not to bite off more than they can chew with too many new characters and plot lines per usual.
[adrotate group="5"]ry4christParticipantIf this trend of low but steady + ABC dumpster fire continues next year…geez, could we actually see a s8?
No way. Next season would be the last. I don’t see Colin, JMO, or Lana staying for more then one more season. Plus ending the show at 150 + episodes is a really good thing IMO.
I don’t see those three returning either but ABC could try to make a go of it, the writers can just keep saying “it’s a new story!” Not saying it’s a bang up wonderful idea or that it’d hold any water as a TV viewer but ABC might look at their numbers/bank account and say “yeah, one more year.”
If the new characters end up being received well enough to even improve ratings just a bit, S7 could end up being a transitional season keeping some old cast with the focus completely on the new characters’ stories in any seasons after.
April 25, 2017 at 7:15 pm in reply to: EW April 25th: Once Upon a Time – Potential vignette episode #337206ry4christParticipantThey could also just have a scene where the characters TELL us what’s happening with the secondary ones eg
Snow: I saw Kathryn at Neal’s nursery today, her little boy looks just like Frederick.
Right there, the audience has been informed that 1. Kathryn is alive and well, and 2. She and Frederick have had a son together.
For characters like Kathryn, sure telling is enough. But for characters like Mal, Lily, Lily’s father, Will and Anastasia, who they deliberately set up subplots for, I want to actually see it. The vignette episode would have been/would be perfect for that.
I feel like either A and E are really out of touch with their fans, or those of us on the forum are in the minority of what we want to see. I can think of several episodes and characters I would have sacrificed for this vignette episode. It would have been a better use of “real estate” as Adam put it. And why even tell us this was considered? “We were going to give you answers for characters that you’ve been waiting years to get, but PSYCH! Never mind.
ry4christParticipantMaybe she simply created the Dark Curse as a way to break her banishment for good and let her live with her son? But she can’t sacrifice the heart of the thing she loves most because that’s Rumple and that would defeat the whole point.
This could be it, but if she created the Dark Curse and it’s mechanics, why would she make the price sacrificing the heart of the thing you love most if she knew she couldn’t do that? That would be really dumb, and she seems very smart. Unless that’s just the Dark Curse’s price because reasons.
April 25, 2017 at 6:56 pm in reply to: EW April 25th: Once Upon a Time – Potential vignette episode #337199ry4christParticipantWell that’s very disappointing. It would have fit so well in the supposed theme at the beginning of the season of telling “Untold Stories.” They could have easily replaced an episode like “I’ll be Your Mirror” without losing out on important storyline.
April 25, 2017 at 12:03 pm in reply to: EW 4/24 – Spoilers From Your Favorite Shows' Season Finales #337149ry4christParticipantI suspect what happened was they wanted to do the Evil Queen, Land of Untold Stories, and Aladdin stuff for Season 6. The Black Fairy and Final Battle might have been the plan for Season 7. Gideon could have still been in Season 6, but perhaps he wouldn’t have been born until the end of the Season. However, they could have combined those plans into the Season 6 we got because 1) They realized that they would be losing key cast members, 2) The show’s ratings had declined, so they wanted to wrap up the main narrative this Season just in case they weren’t renewed for Season 7.
That would also explain why they seemed to set up Hyde as the big bad in the S5 finale, and then killed him off just 4 episodes into the season.
ry4christParticipantIt will be interesting to see how they make her sympathetic as the press release seems to imply while staying consistent with what she told Rumple in 6×09, “Sometimes you have to choose power over love.” Unless she said that to hide the truth – her secret?
ry4christParticipanthis destiny is prophesized, she does everything in her power to keep it from happening.
Maybe they will do a parallel and have the fairy godmother (Blue!) tell her that her actions as a mother will make her son become a beastly monster so she tries to prevent this by abandoning her son and not being his mother. This would be a great parallel to Rumple’s seer prophesy of leaving his son fatherless by his actions on the battlefield.
Yes! And maybe Blue also forces Black to choose between keeping her son or remaining a fairy. Maybe Black chooses to keep Rumple, loses her wings and then resents Rumple and abandons him. She then keeps stealing babies to try and fill the void he left.
ry4christParticipantI’m genuinely excited that they got Stephen Lord back as Malcolm! Black Fairy’s story would have felt incomplete without him!
Agreed! I was hoping for his return as well.
Black Fairy’s name is Fiona, and i bet anything Blue is Rumps fairy godmother. Or Tiger Lily is. Hmm.
I’m thinking Tiger Lily to make her more connected to Pan since she’d be his son’s fairy godmother then.
I’m really excited for this episode. It sounds like the Black Fairy may turn out to be a sympathetic villain and not who Emma fights the Final Battle against. This would fit with Black Fairy telling Rumple he will join her side willingly if they’re all fighting against a different enemy. Having that enemy be Blue would make SO much sense to me and could unite the various arcs if someone we met in the pilot has been pulling strings the whole time.
ry4christParticipantBut if she doesn’t feel bad, why can’t Rumple ever know her secret?
In the context of that scene, I think the secret must be that Blue, not Black, is Rumpel’s mother.
Ooooooh. I really like that.
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