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Your wish is granted, Watcher. :).

I need to come up with a new response phrase, now that WL is over. 🙂

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“The only one who saves me is me.” – Emma

“One of these days, I’m gonna stop chasing this woman.” – Hook

“Wonderful. Anyone fluent in bug?” – Hook

“Sadly red leather jackets don’t come into vogue here..ever.” – Hook

“I’d go to the end of the world for her..or time.” – Hook

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So, is it just me? Did anyone see where Graham would have fit in the finale? They said it would be obvious, but I’m thinking I need something to hit me over the head to see it.

I think he would have fit in as the Black Guard standing on the balcony when Snow went over the wall. Maybe he wouldn’t have shot after her, like the actual guard did. Or he could have been the guard who was protecting the prison cell. He could have freed Emma like he did her father in 1×22, would have been a nice parallel.

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1. Belle has seen Emma and Hook (I am assuming that a forgetting potion will have taken care of that)

Yeah, I bet Rumple gave Belle a memory potion before he showed up in front of Emma again and then drank memory potion himself.

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2) Hook met Snow White in the enchanted forest. Wouldn’t that screw up the timeline for season two. Why didn’t Snow recognize Hook from the Enchanted Forest after she and Emma got sucked into the hat. Meeting him literally resulted in her being burned alive.

Remember that Rumple put Hook & Emma under a spell where they didn’t look like themselves so that Snow, Charming, Red & Regina won’t recognized them as Hook & Emma when meeting them in the future.

Hook may not killed the guards. Just injured them badly.

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I Agree, Watcher. I want Hook to fight and not become someone just hanging out in the background. I’m just really protective of Hook. I see so much hate towards him on this site then any other character, and I wish it would just stop. Just hoped that my essay shed some light on his state of mind and his growth. 🙂

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To fix the past…

I wonder if that could have anything to do with Hook punching his past self. Blackbeard is supposedly in this episode. Maybe Hook makes his past self give up his ship to BB, finish helping Ariel to get rid of his guilt complex. It would explain where the JR is and Ariel would still find Eric.

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Oh Watcher, why did you have to being up this can of worms? It’s only going to cause more emotional damage and never ending arguments on this forum and on a day in which we all should be excited & enjoy our beloved show’s season finale. Now I’m forced to speak up and defend him once again. I’ve just spent the last few hours writing this so I hope it makes sense.

Without looking at him & Emma’s possible romantic relationship, here is my take (sorry about the essay):

Hook has been up against foes he knows he can’t defeat without magical backup. His character development this season has shown how vulnerable he really is but shows how he’s been able to survive for hundreds of years. He called himself “cannon fodder” in the last episode which if you think about it so is David & Robin (love the Regina’s Angels idea). All 3 are just distractions to their foes who have powerful magic so their friends with magic can defeat their foes.

Love & revenge drives Killian. It always had. He’s an antihero. His quick decisions are based on his strong emotions at the time. He lost his parents at an early age the way it appears, possible death & abandonment, and only had his brother to depend and rely on. When Liam’s stupid and stubborn decision along with Pan’s & the King’s trickery cost Liam’s his life, Killian lashed out. He was so hurt and emotionally destroyed he decided to seek revenge by becoming a pirate, a leader, and go up against the King. A loose cannon. I’m sure that just becoming a pirate wasn’t easy. He probably had a lot of lessons to learn and to figure out how he could juggle being honorable, a man with a code, yet be a thief & a liar so he could live with himself. He learned to rely only on himself and became a fearless, ruthless leader to his crew, gaining a strong reputation. Reputation was everything to a man back in the 1600’s to 1800’s. He had nothing to loose and everything to gain. Would love to see a scene between the time he became a pirate till the time he met Milah.

When Hook met Milah, Milah saw him as a way out of her loveless marriage. She was stuck. Instead if just telling Rumple she was leaving him, she took the coward’s way out and made it look like Kilian and his crew kidnaped her. Killian probably saw Milah as a flicker of hope & a chance at a happy ending. I bet his years with Milah were the happiest he ever had up to that point. I wonder what he was like, pirate wise during those years. Was he still seeking revenge against the King, destroying ships and taking no quarters, or was he just out to have fun and get rich, treasure hunting. When did his seek for revenge against the King end? I liked how his crew respected and listened to Milah. Having a woman aboard a pirate ship was rare, unless the woman was just a wench.

Now when Hook lost Milah suddenly he made a rash decision to seek revenge once again. Loosing his hand didn’t help either, the feeling of being less of a man, is a powerful emotion. It ended up consuming him, and going back to NL was a huge risk. He wanted longevity for his life, he knew that Pan was there, but didn’t realize that Pan was a demon vs just a tricky little boy. Hook was no match against Pan and he learned that the hard way over 300 years. Hook lost his freedom, something he had given to his crew when he originally became a pirate. If he wanted to survive and find a way out of NL to finish his revenge, he had to learn to play by Pan’s rules. He ended up working for Pan (wish we knew what he did for Pan) and managed to strike a deal (wish we knew what that was too) with him to get out NL. Pan was the boss and had very powerful magic. He knew how to play on one’s vulnerabilities. He probably mentally tortured Hook for hundreds of years using, Hook’s past mistakes and loss to against him. In NL, there is no future, no movement of time to allow one to heal. Hook probably had to live with the thoughts of Liam’s & Milah’s deaths, over and over and over again. Never being allowed to move on. He had no love in his life, just the respect of his crew and possibly Tink. Hook’s desire of revenge for Milah is what kept him alive and not just give up and kill himself, to end the torture. The ending of Hook’s life in NL could have been a Les Mis story, but thanks to Adam & Eddy it became so much more.

Hook was half crazy & suicidal when he found his way out of NL and continued to seek his revenge. But there is a snag, He came into the FTL world now around 300 years later. Time had moved forward without him. Everything has changed, kingdoms & realms changed or gone. If he had friends and allies before NL, they were all dead. But Hook was free to do what he wanted again, to play by his own rules, to use his charms to get what he wanted, which was of course revenge or die trying. The healing process of his past could begin and he could move forward with his life. Love & friendship wasn’t in the picture though. He’s not the best version of himself with out love & friendship, like Tink was trying to tell Regina. He was not happy and was just plain miserable.

When he met Regina & Cora, once again he was working with those who had powerful magic and could kill him with a flick of their wrist. So he now had to play by their rules. In a way he became frenemies with Cora. He had to prove to them that he was worth having around. He did that again in SB with Cora & Regina and they both betrayed him for it. When he met Emma & her crew in EF, that gave him a flicker of hope to having good allies or friendship once again. To become truely useful, not just someone’s toy. He let Emma win the sword fight so she & Snow could get back home, founding out that Emma had magic in the process, a bonus in a possible new ally.

Once in SB, Cora, Regina, Greg & Tamara used Hook to get what they wanted with the promise of helping him seek his revenge on Rumple, which wasn’t fulfilled. Hook had to play by their rules again, so he continued his fearless, ruthless pirate act. Hook ended up figuring out how to go after Rumple and “kill” him on his own, but it wasn’t rewarding. He felt empty and abandoned. He had no one to look after him, to share his joy with. He was missing love & freindship. In 2×22, he got his first chance to be really be useful to prove he was worth having around by helping David seek out the magic beans. Emma decided to give him a chance at being apart of something to remain alone. But he almost blew it by taking the bean and sailing away from the danger. When he looked back on his life again and remembered what he lost, how he could make amends, and what he could now gain, he turned around.

He’s been offering his help & services over and over ever since, gaining friendship and trust in the process. He likes feeling useful and having the freedom to do so, a trait he was born with. He’s not some one’s toy now although at times it seems like he’s been used by the good guys.

When they went back to NL, Hook knew he couldn’t defeat Pan, but this time he had allies with magic who possibly could in order to get Henry. He knew the island, the vegetation, the lost boys, the caves, Tink, and Pan’s games. He proved to be really useful in a fight, cannon fodder, and ended up a turning into one of the heroes.

We saw how Hook was able to be fearless and ruthless once again when it came to Blackbeard, who has no magic. They were on the same playing field and Hook used his wit, smarts about his ship & brawn to defeat Blackbeard. He didn’t have to worry about the possiblitly of just being knocked out by a flick of someone’s wrist. Hook’s confidence & bravery shined in that scene with BB. He didn’t have anything to loose. Win back his beloved ship, his home, and solidify his reputation once again or die trying (to put himself out his misery – suicidal). He tried so hard to go back to the man he was before meeting the Charming’s, but he couldn’t. He changed too much to ever go back. He had allowed love & friendship to enter his heart and didn’t want to give that up. He had gained trust & a new reputation which are powerful resources to have.

Now when it comes to Zelena. Hook has no past knowledge of this wicked witch, not even a story reference. Once again he’s up against someone with powerful magic and he has no idea how to defeat her. Zelena said so herself that Hook was out of his depth. Hook, David & Robin all were at a disadvantage against her. All they could do was help Emma, Regina and by extension, Belle, to protect Snow, cannon fodder once again. When he & Emma were about to open the cellar he suggested calling for magical backup, Regina. You could tell he didn’t think they could win with just their swords and guns and nothing else to protect them for whatever could have come out of that cellar.

He became Henry’s protector which required a lot of trust from Emma & crew to become so. But once again a villain got to Hook and tried to use him for their dirty work, but this time he was unwillingly. He gained so much in his life at that point and didn’t want to lose it. Hook did everything he could to prevent Zelena’s bidding to play out, despite his curse. I would be a bit freaked out too if someone set a curse on me. He risked his life, love, and friendship to prevent Zelana from hurting Henry and Henry’s family. In the diner scene, Hook was seen reading a book. I wonder if it was a book on curses or a book on modern technologies. Zelena was going to make sure Hook’s curse would play out no matter what he did to stop it – magic vs no magic. Even if he didn’t go with Emma in the last episode to find Zelena would have just transported him to the tank of water to drown him in front of Emma, like she transported Henry to her cluches. In the barn scene, Hook, Emma & Robin were there to back up Regina and to help David get his boy back, cannon fodder. The plan worked.

Now I hope in tonight’s finale we’ll see another side of Hook. How he can combine what he has learned from taking on the past foes and use it to what is to come, a new challenge. Maybe taking on someone or someone’s who aren’t magical more on his level. He’s becoming the best version of himself. A combination of the naval officer and the pirate. Using his wit, charm, fearlessness, strength, smarts, love, trust & friendship to his advantage. 🙂

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I agree with Camelot also. I think whatever portal Hook & Emma use to get back to SB, someone else unknowingly is going to end up tagging along, possibly the next big bad. :o)

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If the wedding will be RumBelle maybe we’ll finally find out Mr Gold’s first name! Don’t they usually state one’s full name during wedding vows? At least on TV and films they do. :o)

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