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@PriceofMagic wrote:
If Henry finds out Bae’s his dad, making Rumple his Grandpa, then he may start having ideas about one big happy family get together. Hook’s revenge quest against Rumple would hurt that, which in turn would hurt Henry. Emma wouldn’t allow that.
Emma’s and Hook’s relationship is doomed to failure. She wouldn’t want him to take revenge against Rumple, and he would resent her if he was forced to give up his revenge.
Here’s the twist. I’m starting to wonder if Bae is who we think he is (hint, hint). 😉 If he is Neal though, then I’d say you’re right.
[adrotate group="5"]@winlea78 wrote:
…..unless its Henry….naw, no way…..right?
No, surely they wouldn’t do that!
@Schmacky wrote:
I think the grim fate has something to do with Henry. That would be drama. Not death. But, destined to be some big bad evil dude or do something evil or something just… grim.
Oh, that would be horrible!
@PriceofMagic wrote:
@Sarah_TN wrote:
@PriceofMagic wrote:
I would like Emma to end up with someone who isn’t Neal or Hook.
But I want my Hook fix! 😥
I don’t see Hook wanting to play happy families with Emma and Henry. He only wants Emma. However Henry is a big part of Emma’s life and will always come first. Hook is never going to convince Emma to ditch her son like he did with Milah. At best, if Emma and Hook do pair up, there will be some delightfully awkward scenes between Hook and Henry where Hook has to play nice and Henry making life extremely difficult for Hook.
Neal’s betrayal of Emma has affected her life very deeply for at least ten years. That’s not something that is going to be easy to forgive and forget. Fairytale land may run on true love and finding each other but the real world doesn’t. Henry may want his parents together but so do many kids in reality. Having Neal and Emma on good terms with each other but seeing other people can portray the fact that having your parents split up isn’t the end of the world as some kids may think it is.
Emma needs someone who isn’t going to or has already hurt her. How can she trust Neal after what he did and how can she trust that Hook isn’t going to stab her in the back when it suits him? (she can’t hence why she left him at the top of the beanstalk). Trust is the foundation of all good relationships. If there is no trust, then the relationship will eventually crumble. Emma may try and date Hook and she may try and give Neal a second chance, but at the end of the day, her inability to trust either of these men will prevent any relationship with them from going long term.
I think Emma and Hook could work (and so could Emma and Neal), but not right away. I agree that Hook has issues. Daddy figure? I think he’d be more like a big brother who would accept Henry is on for the ride, and would “befriend” Henry while needing to mature a lot along the way (which could make for some great drama and moments of comedy). I’d like to see them explore that relationship and it’s possibilities, but I agree he (and Neal) aren’t ready yet. I think either of them could be later given time, development, and some aha moments.
@myril wrote:
It’s always good to get them nominated and vote for them as fan whenever and wherever possible. Show them some love. Regardless from the ratings.
Now the ratings. Often feared, often misunderstood. :ugeek:
Of course for a network it is somewhat interesting to see how their show did compared with everything else in general and in particular aired during the same time slot – but it’s not the most important number for their decision. More important is, how the show did compared to the average rating of the network (and every show, even something like single event shows as Grammys or Superbowl and sports, is included in that average). And even more interesting, how they did in the for commercials interesting demographic group of age 18-49. Actually, it’s not even interesting, how many people watch a show, really interesting for business is, how many people watch the commercials shown before, after and during a show (Nielsen does evaluate that too, but those numbers are not open data). That is why so far DVR is not of that much interest for ratings, not if people skip the commercials. Same goes for any internet streaming. But they have noticed that this might be something not to underestimate. As well they have noticed that social media might offer some interesting data as well to judge, how interesting a show might be for commercials even, so in fall this year Nielsen will beginn in collaberation with Twitter to evaluate Twitter data regularly. And how many people watch a show is an important but not the only factor for how much money you can take for ad time.
That said, take another look at past Sunday’s ratings.
ABC has at the moment an average rating of 2.3 among 18-49 (now that is an overall average, as far as I can tell, source for all numbers: “TV by the numbers”). Past Sunday’s rating was 2.2 – so okay compared to average. Sure, could be better, Grey’s Anatomy had some 3.1 rating past week, but they had not to go against the Grammys. A share of 5 percent (share of audience age 18-49) was not dazzling but Fox coming in third wasn’t better. Once Upon a time had though like 3-4 million more viewers than Fox (all viewers), a sign that Once Upon a Time attracts probably some more kids and more 50+, a real family show. True, ratings had been better on other Sundays, 3.1/8 (rating/share) for the winter final, season premiere had even 3.9/10, so it’s a low for the show, but not yet something to get big time worried about in my opinion. Not yet. And I share that view with a number of tv critics.Disagree about the first season rating, Marilou, for ABC they were good. And it was the number one primetime non-sports show on Sundays.
If you want to keep an eye on the numbers:
TV by the Numbers
And for anyone on Twitter the offer @TheCancelBear to get news if shows are good for renewal, at risk, or cancelled.The site Futon Critic is a good source for a lot of information and news about most shows, including info about ratings, although those number are maybe for advanced interpretation. Go here for Once Upon a Time
And if you interested in how the numbers look for Twitter, go toSocialGuide Intteligence
For the fans of data visualisation: Infographic Reveals The Top Social TV Shows & Movies Of 2012
Thanks for the info, Myril.
I don’t think it’ll be Rumple or Hook. I think it’ll be somebody else. My guess is that we either find out what happened to August (death), or that it’ll be theblue fairy. That’s another theory I’ve seen in other posts, and there are a lot of details to support that possibility.
@SpinningGold wrote:
I think with a nomination list like this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_awards_and_nominations_received_by_Once_Upon_a_Time they are fine…. But maybe we can look out for a few people contests, and nominate them as often as we can…. The more prizes they get, the more likely they are to stay for a LONG time.
Which reminds me… must complain to Dutch channel, ask them what they are up to by planning another series at the time the last episode of season 1 should air.
The nomination list is good, but that’s just people patting eachother on the back. How can a show stay on tv though, if the ratings stay bad? I’m not saying OUAT’s ratings are “bad”, but where would an anchor hold it down if they were? That’s one thing that really made me mad about “Last Resort”, “Jericho”, and the first season of “Touch” (it’s back on tv again – yay!!!–). These were great shows that got great reviews, but got the boot because nobody watched them. Why would Once Upon A Time be any different? “Body of Proof” is another one, but it’s also supposed to be coming back. I hope so, because there are some really great shows out there that don’t get the credit they deserve.
@Marilou wrote:
The first season’s rating were good but not extraordinary. Now were in the second season and it does not seem to improve, in fact it’s getting worst and worst every episode. 7 million viewers is not enough to keep the show afloat. could we be watching the last season of Once Upon a Time?
Neilsen is outdated, but is still used as a point of reference. That being said, I wouldn’t worry too much, not yet. Now if ratings don’t pick up by the end of the season, we might need to have concern for whether we’ll see a completion of season 3. Let’s just see if fans are happy ’cause if they are, they’ll watch the show. If they watch the show, the ratings will go up.
Has everybody seen this one? Is Neal Bae? Oh, this may be interesting indeed!!!
@PriceofMagic wrote:
I would like Emma to end up with someone who isn’t Neal or Hook.
But I want my Hook fix! 😥
