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Why the heck didn’t Emma just kiss someone? Henry is Emma’s cannonical true love going back to season 1! Emma had the perfect opportiunity to kiss Henry as soon as her family arrived. TLK is supposed to break any curse, and unlike Rumplestiltskin, Emma wants to be rid of the dark one curse! It should’ve worked on her. The reason of course is obvious: Emma Swan must go dark and TLK is a series-end sort of thing. But still, from the perspective of the characters, plot hole. I’m surprised Snow and Charming didn’t at least suggest it.
I wonder… Can TLK be initiated by the person who is cursed? It seems to me that the whole TLK canon hinges on the cursed person being saved by an outside intervention from someone who loves them no matter what, but also with no hope of the kiss saving them or having any sort of efficacy. At least, that’s how it’s been framed in Season 1 as well. It’s sort of like the Narnia wardrobe paradox — the wardrobe won’t act as a portal unless you don’t expect it to (I might be embellishing this, I haven’t read CS Lewis since I was a kid). Point is, I don’t think TLK would work if it’s goal driven. Arguably, this is why Belle/Rumple’s TLK didn’t work: not just because Rumple wasn’t willing to give up his powers, but because Belle was doing it for the wrong reasons. I think the same rules apply in this case — you can neither force a TLK on someone, nor extract one from someone you love to solve your predicament.
Applause exactly.
it actually has me thinking of corinthians
If I speak in the tongues of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. 2 If I have the gift of prophecyand can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. 3 If I give all I possess to the poor and give over my body to hardship that I may boast, but do not have love, I gain nothing.
4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.</p>
8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away.9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10 but when completeness comes, what is in part disappears. 11 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me. 12 For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror;then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.</p>
13 And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.</p>[adrotate group="5"]https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/52/cb/c6/52cbc6149415054d0d0aba04c3536bae.jpg
scarletladyParticipantAlso King Arthur had a son Mordred with Morgan le fay/ Morgana in some legends in others he was Arthur rival. He was always bad news for Arthur. I’m think Sir Morgan is probably Mordred.
I personally think Violet’s dress reminds me of the blue fairy.
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scarletladyParticipantSome thoughts on Henry having a “Love” interest. I happen to have a 12 year old & my boyfriend has 2 tween daughters ages 11 & 10. They all are huge fans of the show, my daughter has a crush on Henry/Jared. There is a fan base that is growing up with Henry. It makes sense to feed that group a storyline that they may relate to. I remember my daughter went to her first school dance last year, she was bold & asked out her crush. He canceled on her & showed up at the dance & she didn’t let it ruin her night, she turned it into a group thing & told me all about a new boy. I don’t want to see a big dramatic love story off the bat but hey puppy love well that happens to us all at some point. I do think Henry is a romantic I can see him being a bit of a Dobie Gillis type.
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scarletladyParticipantI was thinking how in Arthurian legend Arthur is conceived as a result of Merlin transformed his father Uther into Igraine’s husband whom Uther had killed in battle. Morgan was the only one who recognized the rouse & it was part of her hatred toward Arthur. Mordred was Arthur & Morgan’s son & would also be interesting. I could see Morgan transforming her son to create a spawn similar to Cora. I’ve seen some parrells with Zelena & her vanity charm & pregnancy.
I’m a bit excited especially since my daughter is Guinevere. I’d love to see some Camelot.
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scarletladyParticipantOn Cinderella’s baby, my own daughter was born at the beginning of season 1 & is 3yrs old. I guess it is Alexandra’s sibling.
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scarletladyParticipantI think the picture of Helga in the Heraldry showed her as a woman. She looked like Emma.
Gerda & kai were childhood sweet hearts in the Snow Queen story. I like to assume that Elsa & Anna’s father is Kai. If I remember correctly Gerda meets a princess on her way to rescue Kai. Perhaps she is the basis for the idea of Helga.
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scarletladyParticipantEmma’s flower is charming’s crest & Regina also has a black feather on her wrist.
Yeah I know it’s the flower from the family crest, but we’ve never had an explanation for why she got a tatt there in the first place, but this thing with the star seems to point towards a reason. Five petal flower on her wrist to try and replace the bad memory of the five pointed star on her wrist.
And does Regina actually have the feather tatt, or is that just a Lana thing? Off the top of my head I can’t recall ever seeing it on Regina, but I dunno how often we’ve seen that part of her arm exposed anyway? I know Lana got the tatt for a personal reason to do with the defining moment in her life.
It was visable in The thing you love most & is listed under trivia for the Evil Queen on onces wiki.
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scarletladyParticipantEmma’s flower is charming’s crest & Regina also has a black feather on her wrist.
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scarletladyParticipantAren’t there 2 boxes. One is a fake but worked because Pan a child believed it? Or did I misunderstand?
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scarletladyParticipantTheory- the shadow is the sandman.
I’m not convinced it is against Malcolm/Pan. While it said Malcolm didn’t belong, it also assisted in turning him to Pan.7
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