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She WAS angry with the Charmings. If you keep refusing it, you won’t see it.
I’m not refusing that she was angry at her parents. My point is, she was angry at her parents for 28 years when she thought she was tossed to the side of a road. I do not see the anger in Broken when she realized who her parents were and why they sent her away. I saw her pain and her confusion of why it was necessary she was sent away. And let’s not forget, that in Emma’s perspective, a little boy was sent with her in the wardrobe instead of her parents.
In the nursery she told Snow she was angry at her for so long. But, I didn’t read it that she was angry at Snow specifically. She was angry for so long at this mother she didn’t know whom chose for her to live without her or without anyone. And once she realized that her parents did want her and didn’t throw her away like she had believed for the previous 28 years she started to come to an acceptance. But, 28 years of believing you were ditched on the side of the road doesn’t disappear over night or even in a week or month.
Hence she refuses Henry answers to his possible questions.
Yes, she did give him up for a closed adoption and therefore would in the future refuse that child to know of their birth mother. I agree with this. But it is not ABANDONMENT. However to me, and this is probably where we aren’t seeing eye to eye.. abandonment and adoption are not synonymous. Abandonment is deserting. Adoption is giving away to alternative care. Henry was given to alternative care while Emma was given to absolutely no care.
Even Mary Margaret at the beginning of the show that Henry is like any adopted child – “he wrestles with that most basic question they all inevitably face: why would anyone give me away?”
I completely agree with that. Both Emma and Henry wrestled with that question. The HUGE difference, and to me there IS one, is that Emma in addition to that most basic question was also wrestling with, “Why would someone THROW me away?”
and why do the same to someone else after going yourself through that hell?
But, she didn’t do the same. And that’s my point. She didn’t do to Henry what she thought her parents did to her. No matter what, Emma couldn’t do anything with Henry for two more months. And for all we know, she made sure he was adopted by the time she got out. Maybe if he wasn’t adopted by the time she got out, she would have taken him so he wouldn’t be in the system for his entire childhood like she was. We don’t know because he WAS adopted within 3 weeks. So, to her, her son didn’t and wouldn’t go through what she did because he had a family that ADOPTED him.. not just fostered him but actually ADOPTED him. Something she never had.
If she found it excusable for her to leave Henry, why couldn’t she excuse Snow and James for doing what was best?
She did. Like you said. She did. If you wanted to shout at her for that one scene in Broken then you must think Emma is strong as steel emotionally and can handle her son being dead, alive, fighting a dragon, seeing a friend turn into wood, learn that fairytales are real, her parents didn’t desert her, and are her age all within ONE HOUR. I mean… really? Again, the big difference is adoption vs side of a road. She didn’t just give birth to him and leave him to his own devices. But, she was.
Either way, Emma and Henry have a similar situation as children but their differences are HUGE. Just as Emma and Snow had similar situations in giving away their children but their differences are HUGE.
UNLIKE her, who did have this choice but still decided to give Henry up. Whatever the reasoning, I find her behavior contradicting. But we discussed about it already so many times.
LOL I think you’re really missing the HUGE difference between Emma being mad at her parents in a general sense of “I was literally abandoned on the side of the road where litter and trash is” and a woman putting her son up for adoption. And I know it’s your opinion, but you might want to look at Broken again and try and find out where it is she’s angry. She didn’t show anger towards them. At all. More confusion and such.
She never abandoned Henry. After she gave birth to him, she served two more months in jail. She obviously gave up her rights early though since Regina got him when he was 3 weeks old. But anyway, I really have to ask… how is it contradictory? You are implying that giving a child up for adoption that one cannot take care of is a bad thing. And you imply that being a child up for adoption is the same as being a child found on the side of a road. How does that work? I understand that both children, no matter the situation, will have a sense of “Why am I not with them?” But the HUGE difference is that while Henry probably asked himself, “Why did she give me away?” Emma always asked herself “Why was I thrown away?”
I just didn’t understand why she had to do it in such an aggressive way.
I think it was because Emma perceived that Regina had threatened her twice in less than 24 hours and got her arrested with a frame job. Yeah, I don’t doubt there was aggression. I personally thought it was careless of Emma to attack the tree because Regina could have just had her arrested again. But, it was ballsy and did show to Regina that she wasn’t going to cower to her.
Very interesting. I don’t think she’s the golden bird just like I don’t think she’s the ugly duckling but I definitely see the parallels. Cool.
I have no idea what the Golden Bird is so… wha? But anyway, haven’t they said before that Emma isn’t anyone else’s story? The closest thing they’ve said is that she has parallels to the Ugly Duckling but she’s not THE ugly duckling.
Maybe I already mentioned it here, but Emma also NEEDS to be the hero for Henry, because this gives her an ‘exuse’ too stay in his life and she can feel like she is something too him, she’s afraid that without it she will loose meaning to him.
I completely agree. She says as much in Desperate Souls to Mary Margaret before her debate with Sydney. “If I’m not a hero and I’m not the savior then what part do I have in his life?”
I agree that Henry gave Emma hope more so than she gave it to him. And I do think Emma gave Henry hope but it wasn’t anything Emma herself did. It was just her presence. That was more about Henry than it was about Emma.
If you could explain why you believe she is still angry at Snow and Charming, that’d be great. Otherwise, it’s just hot air.
LOL@ poor apple tree. I think the point was to show Regina that she wasn’t going to be scared off by a “poor frame job.” Remember?
I have no idea. Schmack is a weird word I used a lot in high school. “have a schmack dabbin day!” I don’t know. I was stupid. Some friends actually called me Schmacky on random and rare occasions. So, alas, it is an online handle now.
I have no intention of being punky. Just conversing.
Emma is not forgiving her parents for what they did, BEFORE OR AFTER she learnt the truth. She’s just assumed being dumped and that’s it, assuming the worst and not allowing any other possible explanations.
From what I saw on the show, that is not correct at all. Even before she knew her parents were Snow White and Prince Charming, she wanted to find her parents.. probably to know why she was abandoned. After she knew the truth, she wasn’t even angry at them. I’ve heard some fans say she is but I’m not sure where they are getting this anger from. She lets them know that no matter the circumstance, she was still alone her entire life. But that doesn’t mean anger.
She admits her anger at her mother in Lady of the Lake but I think that was a general “angry at parents for leaving me on the side of a road” than an anger specific to Snow and their situation. But within that same scene, Emma comes to an understanding and acceptance of why her parents did what they did. Effectively forgiving them for what they had to do.
Only Henry dealt with it the opposite way to her.
Actually, they dealt with it the exact same way. Finding their parents. They both sought out their birth parents.
Out of many people, she should know best that ‘a better life’ is meaningless without people who truly love you and she took this away from him, even though she was once this abandoned child.
If someone goes through the trouble of adopting (which is no easy feat) then one would assume that the person that adopting that child will love them. She was an 18 year old teenager still in prison when she gave him up for adoption. Once she got out of jail she probably had a lot of trouble just caring for herself, let alone a baby. How is giving him up for adoption a bad thing?
After all she did and went through, and all she learnt, THIS is what she has to say to her parents? It’s not like they did what they did with BAD intentions, they had hardly much choice and she KNEW that…..So excuse me if I call it hypocritical but to me it is just that.
That was her first conversation with her parents after finding out the truth just an hour ago that blew her previous 28 years of belief system out of the water. It ultimately doesn’t matter what she said there because like I already said.. she already came to an understanding and acceptance with her conversation with Snow (when she had time to actually think about it).
And yet, she still shies away.
Yes, she has trust issues and not good with emotions. I still don’t see how that’s “digging” or “excusing” anything.
