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But to me it sounded like you were hinting to better leave organizing a convention no matter what size to professionals – and that is what I disagree about.
No, I’m saying there’s a reason why professionals do it. Because it’s a big undertaking. Of course non-professionals can create a convention but it is a huge financial risk. I’m just letting people know to be prepared for such things. Even for a 100-200 guest convention, you’re still talking in the thousands of dollars to run such a thing. It needs to be done legally,for one, as money is being exchanged. Therefore an organization needs to be created legally. Which is money, not much, but it does. Renting out a room at a hotel or a convention center or anywhere else does cost money. And most times, hotels/convention centers require that you utilize certain services which costs money.
Don’t mistake me for someone saying not to do it. Again, just telling people that it’s not as easy as just planning to meet up.
But normally, conventions (even in the small size of 100-200) start off as just meet-ups. That’s why I suggested doing that first. Organizing local meet ups that then merge with other meet-ups that grow and gain word and favor among the fandom take off and that’s how third-party companies doing conventions started off themselves.
Let’s say you get a bunch of fans together.. about 100.. and any guests you have come for free but with paid per diem and transportation. That small little bit could be anywhere from $500 on up into the thousands. How is that paid for in advance? Do tickets for the convention go pre-sale? How do you get tickets sold if you have yet to lock down a venue (as you need to have a down payment to lock it in)? How do you sell tickets when you don’t have anything locked in? It’s a chicken and the egg situation. Unless you have the money up front to pay for it. How do you get that money? Fans can pitch in and make it happen, that’s one way. You could try and find sponsors.
There’s so many ways something like this could go. What is the goal? What is the idea when one says convention? Are they wanting guests from the show? Are they wanting to just panels where fellow fans discuss it? Those questions need to be answered first.
[adrotate group="5"]schmackyParticipantWhat exactly are you disagreeing with me about?
Conventions that have actors in it get quite pricey because they’re quite pricey. Your primary cast members are going to cost in the high thousands of dollars. Like I said, 7K+ And that’s for one cast member. The smaller known name of the actor, the cheaper they are. but, they still cost money (and that money also includes the fee for either their agent or convention agent/handler). Then you have to pay them per diem. Their hotel. Their transportation (usually first class plane or ground transportation). They can make you back your money with the autograph sessions and photographs but that money comes in after the fact when you need to pay them up front. I know we would all love to think they do this stuff for free out of love for the show like we love it but it is their job.
But, if one can get guests for free or by just paying transportation/per diem and forego actual paying them, then great!
Even a small time convention costs quite a bit of money due to venue. Venues aren’t cheap. Of course, the smaller your convention is the smaller the budget needs to be. But even having a venue for a day or three will costs in the thousands.
Unless you’re going super small convention with a bunch of fans hanging out then it’s just a fan meetup.
If anyone wants to do a type of convention, honestly, I would suggest with fan meet ups. Do local fan meet ups. Try to organize with other locations where it all happens around the same time. Keep it building. Then try and merge these meet ups and invite low profile names. Some of the lower tier writers, any make up crew or costuming, etc etc. And build up from there.
But, if anyone is thinking of doing a convention where Lana Parrilla shows up then just be prepared to spend a lot, lot, lot of money.
schmackyParticipantRunning a convention is a pretty hardcore task which is usually why established third party companies run them. Every single thing you need is in the thousands of dollars. A venue costs 5K+ easy, depending on amount of days, how long, and what services you need from them. I’d go with at least 10K. Actors themselves cost $5-15K if you can even schedule them. You’re obviously going to want sponsors and run this by legally with ABC if you’re going to use any copyrighted materials for advertising. And of course, there is advertising which costs a bit.
While wanting to put on a fan convention is quite an admirable thing, just want to let you know it is seriously no easy task and is quite a risk monetarily.
schmackyParticipantWhat has all this to do with copyright issues?
Nothing. There was a post created specifically for what Vancity was saying in his tweet but people were directed here because it was already being talked about in this thread.
schmackyParticipantIsn’t Jennifer the woman who tweeted out to her fans when she was on Broadway and said “Hey, come meet me before the play!”
http://www.imdb.com/video/hulu/vi4131783705/
She talks about it during the 2:20 mark. Granted, that was a few years ago so who knows what happened since then. But, seriously, cannot blame the woman for not wanting to meet fans during her place of work. There are other more appropriate times to do meet and greets.
schmackyParticipantThat set could have been in NY since they really did film in NY, though they said that was more gorilla style. But, in-show it makes plenty of sense because Neal could have gotten spooked after August showed up and he moved. Either way, it’s too obvious that it’s not the same place… considering in Broken he had a studio apartment and in Manhattan he now has an actual bedroom.
schmackyParticipantPerhaps this is a question someone needs to ask Adam on twitter.
He said on twitter it’s been roughly a year. If you’re referring to how old Henry will be, let’s wait for the episode.
What if they leave showing Emma’s birthday until the series finale. Then they can bookend it with the beginning of the series. So in the Pilot, Emma is shown celebrating her birthday alone then in the series finale, Emma is shown celebrating her birthday with her family.
I personally would think the very first birthday she has family around will be a big one. The first time her parents get to celebrate the birth of their baby. It’s my personal headcanon that Emma turned 29 while she was in FTL with Snow and therefore didn’t have a celebration but her next one will be a big thing… and it’ll be her big 3-0!
schmackyParticipantAll These Things That I’ve Done – Emma Swan
“All of our prisons will be time and we will be trapped. The infant is our only hope. Get the child to safety.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmnzkFAC_e8schmackyParticipantAll These Things That I’ve Done – Emma Swan
“All of our prisons will be time and we will be trapped. The infant is our only hope. Get the child to safety.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmnzkFAC_e8schmackyParticipantThe close up one. It looks like two in the middle, but the flame doesn’t look right to only be two. Flame looks like three. But, it could be two., it could be two.
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