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I think Rumpel does not yet think of Emma the way she does him, as family.
He doesn’t think of Emma as family the way he does with Bae, of course.. but he has put his trust in her. With the whole dagger bit after her “start your trust with family” speech.
I think Rump has always had this bit of respect for Emma. Even before the curse. He has no qualms manipulating her seven ways to Sunday, but he definitely has a respect for her. He doesn’t scare her, and she doesn’t take his crap and doesn’t mind giving him a piece of her mind even if she does know he’s some powerful dude. And I think he respects that because he hasn’t encountered many people like that, if at all, since he became the Dark One who isn’t in his “safety bubble” (Bae and Belle).
[adrotate group="5"]schmackyParticipant(Can anyone tell me exactly how Regina got out of Emma’s grasp?I’ve missed that both times I’ve watched the scene.)
She didn’t get out of Emma’s grasp. Emma shoved Regina into Cora which flung them both over the counter. Apparently, Emma has some mad shoving skills.
schmackyParticipantnot Emma, whose rejection of Regina’s suggestion struck me as paranoid
Paranoid like her son might die again? Yeah.. wait, that wouldn’t be paranoia. That’d be called being smart and cautious.
schmackyParticipantI really do want the scene after they cut.
Because if she was just cool with her fiance suddenly leaving town with her car with a beautiful blonde that she’s never heard of before, that seems a little too cookie cutter. She should at the very least have a few basic questions… where are you going? who is this? why do you need to leave right now? when will you be back?
schmackyParticipantDarn, Tamara hasn’t done a darn thing but smile and offer her car up. What could she possibly have done as a character in the 20 seconds we saw her to warrant such hate?
schmackyParticipantExactly! So, while I totally get that Emma continued the lie in Manhattan for selfish reasons, it doesn’t mean that she originated the lie for selfish reasons. And, I’m a little afraid the show is going that way.
And in all honesty, there wasn’t much time for Emma to tell Henry the truth once she ran into Neal. Granted, she could have told Henry the truth any time since the curse broke but it seems their lives never had a moment to breathe and sit him down and do it.
I think this whole lie was truly one of those “the path to hell is paved with good intentions” bit. Because, in a way, I kind of support Emma lying to him at the time she did. We, the audience, knew that Henry wasn’t a crazy little kid but Emma thought he was. Emma thought he was seriously disturbed and had some head problems and she was trying to help him as much as she could.
schmackyParticipantWhether or not the show goes with this.. it’s my headcanon that when Emma originally told the lie it was seriously for Henry’s benefit. She wasn’t lying for herself, but for him. Let’s not forget that they’d only known each other a few weeks/months.. And let’s not forget that Emma thought he was a seriously disturbed kid who had a hard time differentiating reality and fantasy. So much so that within this same conversation he was convinced that her roommate was really her mother. A child who had a bad relationship with his adopted mother, a kid who had no friends, and was idolizing the crap out of her. And just a week or so before he asks about his father, he found out that his super hero mom actually was in prison and that’s where he was born. The kid was crying out for a hero and she wasn’t that hero. He needed one. And so here he was asking about his dad and she didn’t want to tell him his father was a liar, thief, and bad guy that sent her to prison. This kid needs a hero. So, she gave him one.
I think it wasn’t until Emma met up with Neal again that she continued the lie for selfish reasons.
schmackyParticipantRegina will always lose with Henry because she thinks she actually needs to compete with anyone that loves him. She wants him to herself. It’s good for Henry to have a relationship with all three of them but Regina doesn’t see it that way
schmackyParticipantPerhaps the writers felt that if another adult told Henry to mind his manners then it would feel like Henry isn’t justified in still being upset with Emma. I would rather have had them make Henry just completely ignore Emma than that stupid pizza line. Kids are big on the silent treatment so to me it would have felt much more natural for him to do that to her.
schmackyParticipantWhat if the person that actually dies (first) is Snow? And Emma uses the candle and kills Cora to bring Snow back from death or from the brink of death?
Emma does for her mother what Snow couldn’t do for hers?
Hmmm.
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