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See above. Robin throws out his code when it suits him not to have it. Example: Crypt-sex with Regina whilst his wife was freezing to death. Why does it matter to him so much right now? Sometimes I actually wonder if he wants to commit to Regina. He wants all the sexy fun times with her but when it actually comes to leaving someone to be with her, he uses his code as an excuse not to.
He threw out his code/honor one time for love. Every other option he has taken has aligned with it. That makes it an exception not a rule. If we get anything from this plotline it would be that Robin depends on his ‘code’ too much, to the detriment of his family even.
If he decided from the beginning to follow his heart and not his honor, Zelena’s plan would have been DOA.
[adrotate group="5"]And CORA!!! Best villain ever. Creator of villains and villain of villains.
I nominate this as her official tagline.
So the Sheriff of Nottingham is back… that is interesting. I pray Cora didn’t learn about the pixie dust.
And in the spirit OUAT soap… Who wants to speculate about who Lily’s biological father is? *eyes Charming suspiciously*
I’ve seen a few people throwing out King Stephan, which would go with things being crazy on this show. We at least know the father is probably a brunette, because…Lily. That sadly eliminates Charming.
Do we think he’s a villain or a hero?
Presumably, any random child couldn’t be the “Anti-Savior” otherwise.
What I was confused about is the Sorcerer saying Lily and Emma were fated even before the curse. So what exactly do we think the Author did? Just stacked the deck against Lily a little more?
Regina, the supposed love of Robin’s life, turns up and says Marian is really Zelena and Robin accuses her of lying as if Regina was jealous and was saying anything to split Robin and Marian up?
Robin and Regina have always described each other as a ‘second chance’ because both of them have been in love before and lost their loves. They both accepted that about the other. That they had a great love in their past. The love never went away. It exist for both of them and always will. It just so happens that Zelena decided to manipulate Robin using that love.
I say all of that because Regina shows up in New York telling Robin that:
1 Zelena isn’t dead
2 Marian is Zelena
3 Zelena kill Marian
This is after weeks of living with “Marian” and knowing she is pregnant. It would make much more sense for him not to believe Regina than it would if he did believed her immediately.
Surely Regina won’t accept Robin when he inevitably comes crawling back? Regina’s got self-respect.
I tend to think Robin didn’t do anything wrong, but I would like to see some actually dialog between the two of them about everything that occurred. Robin could easily blame Regina for all of this, but he won’t. And Regina could blame Robin for all of this, but she won’t.
The one good thing about this reveal is that Zelena is finally out of the way! She is literally the only thing keeping OQ from each other.
Oh and Kudos for totally calling the pregnancy!
One might argue that there’s no way anyone could come to the conclusion that “wait, this is a body snatcher!” But is the trick of magically emulating someone else so unheard of in EF that Robin wouldn’t even dream of thinking that something like that might be happening to “Marian”?
I would kind of agree with this if they weren’t in NYC. They left Storybrooke for a Land Without Magic. I don’t see any way Robin would have the thought that the little personality quirks “Marian” were related to any type of long con glamour in such a setting.
If the pregnancy is fake, then what was Zelena’s end game here?
I’ve been trying to figure this out as well. Zelena faked the Snow Queen curse to get Roland and Robin away from Regina so he would fall in “love” with her. Ok. Not sure how long that’s suppose to last…
Zelena finds out about the Author because of the conversation Robina and Rumple have in Neal’s apartment. She tells Rumple that she can’t quite get Robin to fall for her so now she wants the Author to write her a happy ending. Ok. Clearly that doesn’t involve continuing to live as Marian because that is ‘dull’.
So she gets Rumple’s help. He has is vague conversation about ‘grasping your happy ending’ with Robin. Robin decides to recommit to his marriage and…she gets pregnant? This will ensure that Regina and Robin will not leave her out of Storybrooke so that she can meet up with Rumple.
At this point…I’m not sure what Zelena wants. To become Regina? Continue to make Robin and Regina miserable? Bring Cora back? Who knows!
@nala87 @PFischler @HookSwanEndGame it was a good episode! I directed The author's origin story.. Part one of the 2 hour season finale!!!
— Romeo Tirone ASC (@RomeoTi) April 23, 2015
The Author’s backstory is coming in Operation Mongoose Part 1
So her name is Lilith Page.
Her banishment was the reason the Author was placed inside the book.
That screams to me that she is instrumental in the Apprentice righting the Author’s wrongs.
Maybe she is the anti-savior because she is there to destroy the mess the Author created.
And does that make sense? Because when we met Lily, she was already a thief, able to give tips to another would be thief.
I think it makes sense only because she said this new feeling felt like she was being forced into bad decision, not that she was making them herself. But, like you are pointing out this is all Lilith’s POV, which has been proven to be flawed.
