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October 25, 2012 at 5:47 am in reply to: How our world found out about these fairytales/legends #157683sleepless knightParticipant
I don’t think the book does show what happened after they got to SB. First off, in one of the early episodes, Henry tore out the pages about baby Emma being sent to our world and after those pages were torn out, it appeared that the remaining pages in the book were blank. Second, my interpretation of Emma causing the final battle to begin is that the result of said final battle is unknown.
[adrotate group="5"]October 24, 2012 at 6:05 am in reply to: How our world found out about these fairytales/legends #157915sleepless knightParticipantI’ve worked out multiple theories in my head and have decided that the portal that sent Emma here was an FTL version of Doc Brown’s DeLorean.
Since Emma was part of the counter to the curse, the curse was forced to bring everyone to our time. At least to me, it explains how we know all these stories as they were told long ago to the Brothers Grimm, Perrault, J.M. Barrie, et all and yet are coming to place here.
sleepless knightParticipantThis is getting more and more fun. An all out turf war between villains who really have it out for each other.
sleepless knightParticipantI think Henry is a “vergence in the Force” to use a Star Wars term. A lot does center around him, but he’s key to the final battle. He’s the grandson of the royal family and heir to the throne if you will. And he’s instrumental in getting Emma to SB.
In fact to take my Star Wars idea a step further, there may be parallels between Henry and Luke Skywalker. Anakin Skywalker was the Chosen One and supposed to destroy the Sith. Instead he joined them, taking on the name Darth Vader and helped hunt the Jedi to near extinction until Luke (his son) helped redeem him as Anakin destroyed the Emperor.
While Emma wasn’t the cause of all the trouble like Darth Vader was, Henry helped set her on the path to return the happy endings to everyone.
sleepless knightParticipantInteresting. I hadn’t seen it that way. I still don’t trust Regina on account of her being the Evil Queen and all though. I think she’s up to something.
sleepless knightParticipantI didn’t enjoy this episode as much as the first 2 of the season, but that’s okay. I still enjoyed it and I think it advanced some points that needed advancing.
I was rewatching the pilot this week and I noticed how Emma decided to stay in SB after she asked Regina if she loved Henry. Emma’s superpower was that she can tell if people are lying. I believe she stayed because Regina lied about loving Henry. I think Regina’s plot now is to turn Henry into a dark wizard of sorts.
sleepless knightParticipantThanks. I think the tricky part will be weaving my thoughts into the context of the show. Should be fun though. . .
sleepless knightParticipant@Phee wrote:
When it was announced that we’d be getting Aurora, everyone assumed that we’d be getting the Sleeping Beauty we all know. Turns out she’s actually a different character, which I think was clever of them, because it means they can tell Aurora’s story, which has elements of her mother’s, so it not completely foreign to us, and then they can also tell us the actual Sleeping Beauty story as they move ahead in developing Aurora’s character. Two fairytales for the price of one. 😉
I think this is why there’s been ‘controversy’ if you will over Aurora. I was not a fan of casting a brunette until I saw Broken. There were enough substantial departures from Disney’s Sleeping Beauty that I thought we were seeing another OUAT twist on a familiar story.
sleepless knightParticipant@LisaFromOH wrote:
I know this isn’t really about her character, but I was disappointed that they made her a brunette. In the Disney movie, Aurora is a blonde. But maybe that’s this Aurora’s mom? I’m interested to learn what she was talking about when she said she made a sacrifice.
I shared those thoughts until I saw the episode. Sleeping Beauty is my favorite Disney movie and I was not sure about the whole brunette Aurora thing.
However, since this Phillip did not slay Maleficent before getting to his Aurora and since there have been ample references made to another sleeping beauty, I believe that we’re seeing a different sleeping beauty.
In the Disney version, some notable changes were made from the Perrault version. Disney made the princess a blonde, named her Aurora (which was the name of her daughter in the Perrault version), and had the Prince fight a dragon to get to her. In Perrault’s version, the sleeping princess was ‘nameless’ and a brunette.
I like what we’re seeing so far, but agree that more character development would be nice.
sleepless knightParticipantI think we just may be seeing something much closer to the original Charles Perrault version of The Sleeping Beauty with multiple references from the Disney version sprinkled in.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleeping_Beauty
Consider this. The Perrault version appears to be the earliest known recording of the story. The Brothers Grimm Little Briar Rose appeared afterwards and ends with the kiss to waken her. Most versions of the story end after the kiss,but Perrault’s went further.
In the Perrault version (and most subsequent versions), the princess slept for 100 years before the Prince arrived to wake her. After their marriage, they had 2 children L’Aurore (Dawn) and Le Jour (Day). It wasn’t until the Tchaikvosky ballet that the name of the title princess was changed to Aurora. Furthermore, in the Perrault version, the princess was originally a brunette. It was Disney’s version that gave her blonde hair.
As far as I can tell from my research into variants of the Sleeping Beauty story, Disney’s is unique in that it is the first version where the prince has to fight for the princess. In most other versions, the prince shows up at the castle after 100 years, the thorns part, and he walks up to her room and wakes her up. Some involve multiple princes dying in the thorns before the 100 years was up.
From what we’ve seen so far, OUAT’s Phillip did not slay Maleficent or possibly even fight her. Furthermore, the references OUAT Aurora makes to her mother have me thinking that this version of Sleeping Beauty is not the Disney version, though the series has chosen to make use of the names Disney gave the Prince and the Lilac Fairy (Maleficent).
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