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I believe I’ve figured out why Cruella wants Issac dead and needs his body. Cruella wants Issac dead so that Henry can take his place as the next Author. That is why she kidnaps Henry and why she needs Issac’s body to preform a ritualistic right of passage. Cruella still loves Issac, but Issac refused to rewrite Cruella’s horrible past with her mother. That is why she wants Regina and Emma to do her dirty work for her (because she can’t bring herself to kill the man she loves). She intends to make Henry into the next Author, so that he’ll rewrite her story for her. Somehow, Cruella is in the know about Henry being the Truest Believer, making him the ideal candidate to be the next Author.
[adrotate group="5"]"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
From the EW article:
Then [we] take her all the way up to present day, and find out what her secret agenda has been this entire time—that she has separately of the Queens of Darkness.
The sneak peek already gave a partial answer of what Cruella wants: to kill the Author (who presumably wronged her somehow). If that’s that case, however, why didn’t she just team up with the Charmings, who also were tempted to kill him to cover up their past wrongs? Why did Cruella team up with Rumple and the QoD who want the Author alive to write them a new set of happy endings?
What’s her happy ending? Is it to find the Author so she can be with him?
That’s far too simple. It’s going to be much more complicated than that, my darling. It really genuinely is complicated and twisty. It’s going to be a bit of an emotional roller coaster.So what’s the twist? Cruella said she wants the Author’s dead body. Why? Does she just want evidence of his death? Or is there something else she wants?
Cruella and the Author appear to have a history. What kind of relationship did they have?
It’s sweet, it’s intense, it’s complicated. It was fantastic to play with Patrick; he’s an astonishing actor. We got to do every twist and turn you could imagine together. I totally ‘ship them! He is the key for her, from the beginning, and for her future. He’s been the key.How can the Author be the key to Cruella’s future if he winds up dead? Does Cruella want to make Henry into the next Author? Is that why she needs the Author’s body? Is that why she kidnaps Henry? Maybe the Author must die before the next Author can take his place. Does Curella intend to enact some sort of ritual or right of passage so that Henry fulfills his destiny as the next Author?
What’s her goal in taking Henry?
I can’t really tell you. Her happy ending, her goal—up until now, we’ve known very little about how or what she’s been after and who she trusts and who she doesn’t trust. As a villain, you generally don’t trust many. It’s all going to play out Sunday. She’s a glorious, dazzling sociopath, and it’ll all be explained.I think I figured it out. Cruella wants Henry to be the next Author so that Henry can write Cruella a happy ending — something Issac refused to do.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Why does Cruella want the Author’s body?
Yeah, that’s odd. I could see her wanting the Author killed as revenge for whatever crappy thing he presumably did to her. But why would she specifically want his dead body? Does she want to feed it to her dogs? Why does the destruction of human remains on a “family show” no longer surprise me?
I dunno. Is it possible that she wants to reanimate his dead corpse but this time with his ‘will’ removed so that he can’t say no to whatever she wants.
Ugh. That doesn’t sound a whole lot better to me. Sounds more like G.R.R. Martin than Disney. But I suppose reanimated corpses are already part of Once canon (Zombie Daniel comes to mind, and both Jafar’s and Cora’s army of undead zombies).
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
P.S. I identify a lot with the writer of that article who wrote:
What about my tastes? I have mentioned this already, but I am very conservative and family-bound. It should come as no surprise that I hate couples who prioritise their passionate love affair over their family and friends. This is going to sound slightly stupid, but the best way to win my approval would be if the main character is a siscon. Anyone who would rather rescue his little sister in a pinch than his girlfriend is a Bro in my book.
Beyond that, I don’t really care as long as the two characters aren’t annoying and spend ages pointlessly denying their attraction to each other.
Basically, that comes down to me thinking that friendship and companionship is the best foundation to build a long-term relationship on. You’ll have your own values which you might emphasise more, but I’ll hold steadfastly to mine.
Family and friendship, even more than romantic feelings, are so fundamental in my book, too. Pairings like Rumle/Cora, Hook/Milha, Hook/Emma, and sadly even Regina/Robin just naturally don’t endear themselves to me. While romantic feelings can lead to family building and lasting love, I also desire the core of a relationship to be that of friendship and companionship, which can be found in a healthy family unit. I don’t want to watch a pairing tare a family apart or cause an otherwise honorable man to go against his better moral judgement. I was in favor of Robin and Regina up until 4b, because their relationship didn’t come at the cost of others and was about more than just them, but also a family. But then the writers made in near impossible for me to root for them when Robin compromised his honor when he thought he was still married to another. In the end, it was Zelena parading as Marian, but at what a cost did it come for Robin/Regina to be preserved — namely Marian’s murder by Zelena. Marian of the past met the same fate at Neal at the hands of the same woman.
In OUAT, I thought I was watching a story about how a dysfunctional family unit reconciled and mended generational hurts. While we got a taste of that, Baelfire’s death was really the continuation of past wrongs being repeated in my book. Even though Bae’s death was a sacrifice in a way, it was also a gratuitous death. Bae should’ve known better, and did, the price of dark magic; so him saying “to hell with the consequences” was so uncharacteristic, and a messy character assassination to make him look like a dimwitted “villain” (Hook’s words) while Hook got to revel in the downfall of his romantic rival for Emma’s affections. It was all the more messed up, too, because Hook could’ve been like a second father to Bae; Hook could’ve done the truly heroic thing and sacrificed for Bae, as an act of redemption for wronging Bae as child when he turned him over to Bae’s demonic grandfather. That is why Baelfire was a Bro in my book, but Hook is no hero. Whereas Hook only makes a “sacrifice” for the woman of his affection (which was no real, or lasting sacrifice seeing how Hook got his ship back), Baelfire constantly put the needs of his friends and family even before his own personal desires. He tried to save his father from darkness, even if it meant embracing the unknown. He counted the Darlings as his family, and scarified his freedom to save Wendy’s brothers. He scarified his own wishes of having a relationship with Emma so that she could find her family. He again went through the portal so that Henry wouldn’t have to grow up alone like he and Emma did. I was strongly rooting for Baefire’s sacrifice and real heroism finally being rewarded after spending a lifetime alone. Baelfire getting the family he’d always desired with his father, and more recently his son, Henry, would’ve been enough, and if he reconciled romantically with Emma, than all the better. Their love went deeper than romance anyway; they were family at the end of the day. Their little yellow bug represented home, love, and familial security that they never otherwise experienced as orphans.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Essentially, I thought the whole idea of the “main” vs “beta” couple is interesting. From that perspective, Rumbellers and SF (with which I’d have probably identified at least at one point) would qualify as shipping the “beta” couple — the one where more is left to the imagination and interpretation, where the pairing is either not obvious, or emotionally complicated, and where you have to pay attention to context, subtext, and history. By contrast, with the “main” couple, the focus is more on the overt/passionate/probably gender-stereotypical relationship, which, back to @RG’s comments, explains why we now have to deal with the “cavemantic” disaster that is CS (*runs and hides before she gets clubbed over the head by angry CSers*)
@nevermore – You needn’t worry about offending CSers here. This is a Neal-friendly, pro-SF safe-space. To get into it, I think you provided some interesting insights. I would agree that the so-called “beta” relationships are being scarified on the alter of newer, more in-your-face romantic relationships like CS and OQ. Even the older, establishment “alpha” romantic relationship, Snowing, is being raked through the mud as Snow and Charming are undergoing character assassination with the casting of a dark curse, spousal sacrifice, and now soul-destroying baby snatching.So, the question becomes, as it might be with OUAT, what happens when a show begins to sink all its “beta” ships?
I would say that the destruction of these “beta” relationships (e.g. Rumbelle, Swanfire, and even ScarletQueen) in favor of these “hotter” more physical romances (i.e. CS and OQ) is symptomatic of a broader, more general crisis. The writers compromised their original vision for the show. Instead of being a show about redemption, second chances, family and hope (e.g. the relationship between Neal and Rumple, or the reunion of Henry, Emma and Neal as a tale about reconciling a family and ending negative generational patterns), we have a story in which ultimately noble characters like Marian and Neal are scarified in favor of unrepentant pirates in leather and would-be adultery. The moral compass of the writing is all off. The main villain to sow what he reaps is Rumple. It seems karma only applies to the dark one these days, oh and Neal, because his one mistake is tantamount to him being the spawn of Satan. *sarcasm*
You might not share the writer’s preference (love story over romance), but I think with OUAT maybe we saw a show that began with love stories or potential love stories (lets call them romantic subplots), and then largely shifted to having romance as its central moral framework, with some (at this point quite unconvincing) lip service that this is about human relationships more broadly.
I’d agree with this thought. Despite Snow and Charming’s relationship being a romantic one, it was in essence, a love story S1. It was about them fighting for and sacrificing for one another, their family, and their kingdom. It was about more than just romantic platitudes and feelings, but about what the essence of love really is: sacrifice. But the entire narrative was not merely focused on Snow and Charming’s romance; it was centered around an entire family. It was about step-mothers and step-daughters, mothers and daughters, fathers and sons, fathers and daughters, and mothers and sons. That is why it was so beautiful when Emma’s true love turned out to be her son. S1 as a whole elevated the concept of maternal love over even the romantic love of Emma’s parents. These were the things that drew me in and touched my heart: Rumple’s love for Baelfire, Snow and Charming’s love for Emma, Emma’s love for Henry, and later on, Baelfire’s love for Henry and Regina’s love for Henry. Now, sadly, Henry is an afterthought of his remaining parents, his father is dead, his birth mom is at odds with her parents, and Rumple has been so altered by the death of his son that he’s nothing left to him except power. Everything is falling to pieces. And why? All because “happy endings aren’t what we think they are” (i.e. Emma’s, Henry’s and Rumple’s happy ending is dead). Baelfire, while not a primary character, was a very important one and the catalyst of the entire show since S1. Without him, the heart of the show is gone for viewers like me. These so-called “romances” ring hollow when the most important love story (i.e. the love between family) is compromised.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
I’ve got another question about the second sneak peek. Why was Regina not way more shocked and keeled over by the revelation that Zelena is alive again? Did Regina ever learn that Rumple had “killed” Zelena? Did Regina think Zelena had killed herself? Rumple had better bother to explain to her how Zelena is alive or I’ll flip a table.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
I think we all know who crosses the line.
I have a feeling that spoiler could be about something else other than a moral issue. It could be about Regina and/or Emma literally crossing the town line to find Robin Hood in NYC, and along the way, they find Lily.
So the question becomes is Belle aware that Regina took her heart or was she unconscious when Regina took it? Just
Either way, Regina is stealing Belle’s heart, against her will, so it’s still a morally dubious thing Regina does. Even if it’s done for the sake of saving Robin, Regina taking Belle’s heart by force just doesn’t sit well with me. If Belle never learns of Regina’s stealing of her heart, and therefore Regina never gets caught and/or never apologizes, then it becomes an even bigger moral issue.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Hang on…if she is powerless without her pendant, how is she using magic now? (Other than the 6-leaf clover, I know the power of transformation comes from that.)
Do you mean the instance when Zelena’s “essence” traveled through time and space as a puff of green smoke? Yeah, that was beyond absurd, not to mention her reincarnation in a human body seems to break the law of magic that the dead cannot be resurrected. But whatevs. Ever notice how only villains seem to be resurrected on this show? Too bad Zelena misused her second chance by killing an innocent woman, stealing her identity, and raping her husband.
Zelena had power before the pendant, the pendant only made her more powerful. So I think without the pendant, Zelena still has magic, it’s just not as powerful as it could be. Zelena’s natural power is like a battery, it has to be charged up before she can use it. The pendant was like plugging something into the mains.
No, Zelena would be completely powerless without her pendant. That is why Regina took Zelena’s pendant in 3×20, to “keep it somewhere safe” and out of the way. Regina thought she had rendered Zelena powerless. That is why it’s so inconsistent that Zelena’s spirit was able to travel though a time portal to become reincarnated.
Notice how Glinda didn’t warn Zelena about not taking the pendant off until AFTER she had it around Zelena’s neck.
That’s because Glinda is shady, like the Blue Fairy.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Why does Cruella want the Author’s body?
Yeah, that’s odd. I could see her wanting the Author killed as revenge for whatever crappy thing he presumably did to her. But why would she specifically want his dead body? Does she want to feed it to her dogs? Why does the destruction of human remains on a “family show” no longer surprise me?
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
