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Hasn’t Rumple already hurt Belle enough? The emotional manipulation was pretty bad. I don’t think he would ever intentionally do her physical harm, but I could see her inadvertently becoming collateral damage. Rumple could have a moment of weakness when he comes face to face with Belle again, which the other queens of darkness then seize upon to get what they want the way Zelena did with Neal. Belle could be an obstacle that these queens are only too happy to remove. I don’t think it will come to that, not with Rumbelle being such a big “ship” and all. So I think Belle is safe, but will come in harm’s way by being taken hostage (again).
[adrotate group="5"]"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Robin and Marian and Roland went over the town line and out into our world. Will we see them again? And what do you think their life is like out there? Did Robin make the right choice?
I think Robin made the right choice. He had to save the life of his son’s mother. However, I felt bad for Marian, because Robin basically said within her earshot that he chose Regina. So that doesn’t sound like laying a good foundation to give it go again with Marian now that he basically had no other choice but to save her. As for Marian, I agree with her perspective that she wants someone to choose her. So it’s got to suck from her perspective too knowing Robin basically sees her as the old ball and chain (through no fault of her own). The entire situation just sucked and was set up so there could be no “winners” because Robin won’t easily be able to get Regina out of his head, Regina is heartbroken, and Marian is stuck with a husband in love with another woman.
So we can’t send Marian out into our world by herself but we can send her with Robin, the guy who has been living in our world for maybe a month at best, but living in a tent and hunting wild game?
Good point. It’s not as though Marian could even be independent of Robin in this new land. They can’t just file for a divorce or hire lawyers. Marian and Robin are from a pre-industrial society in which peasants such as themselves were probably illiterate without any real knowledge of modern technology. They have no identification or money. They are going to be forced to rely on one another out in the real world, especially since neither one is experienced in A Land Without Magic. Good thing Robin is an experienced thief, since how else are they going to survive the night, let alone get anywhere? (How did Rumple survive for 6 weeks and afford bus passage to NYC?)
As for Robin and Marian, they could still rekindle that earlier flame and fall back in love, or at the very least, forge a platonic love and remain steadfast friends for the sake of their son. I think the best situation would be Robin falling back in love with Marian the more he comes to remember that earlier love. It is possible to fall back in love with someone you loved before, especially now that they are the only two adults from their world, alone against the world, fending for their son. Yet, the way it was written was such that it seems that Robin is going to carry a flame for Regina.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Three’s a crowd. I think Maleficent would’ve been a formidable villain enough without needing Ursula and Cruella. As to how Mal could be alive, ashes because magic preservation spell and breakage of rules.. Who knows how Ursula ended up in NYC though? More magic beans? And Cruella could be in London I guess?
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
I wrote this in a different thread, but I’ll share it here, too. Belle absolutely had to do what she did to save everyone. Can you imagine an all powerful dark one without accountability? As terrible a personal sacrifice it was for Belle, I was actually mightily impressed with her inner strength. Finally, she stood up for herself! She wasn’t just an enabler of Rumple’s addiction to power. While I didn’t love that Rumple drove her to that point, she was adamant in sticking up for herself and for the rest of the town. She was a true hero, even though it was so painful, but she knew she had to do it. Rumple was both a threat to the town, to her, and even to himself, because unlimited magic without any sort of price would be disastrous for them. Unlimited power would’ve absolutely corrupted Rumple to the point of no return, and he would’ve driven Belle away from him, or else, held her against her will.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Belle absolutely had to do what she did to save everyone. Can you imagine an all powerful dark one without accountability? As terrible a personal sacrifice it was for Belle, I was actually mightily impressed with her inner strength. Finally, she stood up for herself! She wasn’t just an enabler of Rumple’s addiction to power. While I didn’t love that Rumple drove her to that point, she was adamant in sticking up for herself and for the rest of the town. She was a true hero, even though it was so painful, but she knew she had to do it. Rumple was both a threat to the town, to her, and even to himself, because unlimited magic without any sort of price would be disastrous for them. Unlimited power would’ve absolutely corrupted Rumple to the point of no return, and he would’ve driven Belle away from him, or else, held her against her will.
Do I think Rumple can come back from this? Do I think Belle will ever forgive him? I think a lot of things would have to happen before that would ever happen. Namely, Rumple would have to choose Belle over power, by which I let her kiss break his dark one’s curse once and for all. So far, the reason Belle’s kiss hasn’t yet freed him from his curse is because he doesn’t want to lose his magic. Power is his true love, as Belle said. But how Rumple would choose Belle while currently headed down this dark path would take a miracle.
As for what Rumple was actually planning to do in NYC if he’d actually succeeded in being free of the dagger while keeping his power, I haven’t a blessed clue. As we saw, he still ended up in NYC on a bus. We know that is where Neal’s apartment was so maybe Rumple is living there? What Rumple is doing there now, I’m not sure. What he was planning originally may have changed, but it seemed like Ursula was (bizarrely) working there at an aquarium. (How did she get there?) So now it seems like he will team up with her to find Cruella and Mal, and then track down the author.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
The Author is obviously the sorcerer. Merlin being a powerful wizard is well known, but whether he is the sorcerer and therefore the author isn’t totally clear. Merlin certainly could be the sorcerer, but the mention of Camelot could also be a huge misdirection. The author could even be a she, rather than a he, as Regina assumed. There really is no way to know the identity or even the author’s gender.
Where the heck is he? Why is the house abandoned for Henry, Rumple, and half the town to go scavenger hunting around the halls?
I’m wondering if the sorcerer set the whole thing up. Remember it was Belle who just happened upon what appeared to be an abandoned mansion for her and Rumple to squat in. And it was during his honeymoon that Rumple just “happened upon” the sorcerer’s hat. Now one could ask why the Author would do such a thing? Perhaps he (or she for that matter) wanted Belle to cast Rumple out into the cold, dark, Land Without Magic.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
I watched the episode. All I could think of during Rumple’s scenes was how much I missed Neal. How utterly dismayed he would’ve been to know what became of his old man after trading his life for his dad’s. I hate to say it, but Rumple deserved everything he got from Belle.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Be forewarned. If you’re watching tonight, prepare for the onslaught of CS stuff headed our way. Based on Colin’s Q&A it sounds like 4×11 is going to make fans of CS very happy. I, however, will not be happy and will be forced to hunker down with Henry in the corner.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Henry and Belle actually get to talk together? Wow!
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
“Helga [Ungurait], who is one of the producers on the show, sort of maps out what you can and what you can’t do when you lose your heart,” O’Donoghue explains to Zap2it over coffee in Vancouver, where “Once” films. “The way that we see it is Rumpel also wants to torture Hook, Rumpel wants Hook to feel for Emma. That’s the way we rationalized it, because in the past when other people have had their hearts stolen they’ve been told to do something and then they go do it.”
Poor Colin and all the rest of the cast. They all seem to be grasping at straws what with the obvious writing discontinuity. He and the crew have to come up with explanations of their own, because there is an obvious breakage of heart-snatching rules. Colin is a smart man, so he’s probably left scratching his own head as he and Helga are forced to come up with their own head canon that Rumple somehow magically tinkered with spells (despite the fact it wasn’t indicated in the dialogue, or by the sounds of it, script footnotes). Notice how Colin had to use the word “rationalize” to try and make sense of a nonsensical script? It was never explained why Hook or Regina were able to feel something without a heart. Neither Graham, nor Cora, nor Will Scarlet (in WL) were able to feel anything without their hearts, and then suddenly with Regina in S3 and now Hook is s4, they’re supposed to be able to feel something regardless? That’s just a glaring discontinuity, and Colin seems well aware of it.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
