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ParticipantEmma has always been the skeptical, reluctant heroine. So for her to accept her role as savior has required her to come to terms with some pretty major things. She grew up feeling like an orphan, but found out she had a family. She had to learn what having a home and having parents felt like at the age of 28, something which a lot of children take for granted from their earliest years of life. Also, Emma grew up in A Land Without Magic and suddenly learned, not only are fairytale characters real, but she’s one herself. And oh yeah, she’s the savior and is true love incarnate. So I saw her progression to accepting what home meant to her as authentic and unique.
Where I see some of this current season being a bit plot driven, rather than character driven, however, is the introduction of Frozen. Emma’s current struggle with magic was just Elsa’s struggle in the cartoon. There’s nothing all that novel or unique to Emma, since it feels like A&E just copied and pasted Elsa’s story of struggling with magic onto Emma. And that is why the 2-hour special felt forced and fake to me since we’ve never had any prior indication of Emma’s magic ever being a hazard or spiraling out of control before Frozen was introduced to the Once universe.
[adrotate group="5"]"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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ParticipantWell, spoiler photos indicate another CS kiss in 4×12. It’s pretty clear where that’s headed. I just don’t see the point anymore. It’s so predicatable now. CS kiss practically every episode. *Yawn*
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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Participant"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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ParticipantBut he probably thinks that’s better for her anyway. He has let her go three times before because he doesn’t believe she should be stuck with him. He’ll do it again, sadly and reluctantly, if he thinks she’s better off.
How much more crushing if he realizes that what he’s done has hurt her in ways he can’t protect her from, even by severing their relationship?
Whether subconsciously done or not, I wonder if Rumple is letting the fake dagger come between him and Belle because he wants her to leave him. I know that sounds odd, considering Rumple loves Belle, but at the same time, he feels imminently unlovable and probably thinks she’s better off without him. By him keeping the real dagger and truth from her, he is building his own case against himself. He had the perfect opportunity to confess his lie to Belle when she confessed hers. I believe Belle would’ve forgiven him on the spot, especially in light of her own feelings of being cowardly and lying about Anna. Now that Rumple let that golden opportunity pass him by, he’s only letting things gets worse the longer he keeps telling lies to cover up past lies. It’s like a ticking time bomb just waiting to go off.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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ParticipantSecondly, Rumple’s been using Belle as a cover for his crimes in Storybrooke–quite openly. Belle, meanwhile, has earned enough trust to care for Snow White’s baby. While it’s possible that people realizing Rumple’s been duplicitous may not reflect badly on her…it also might. She married the man, after all, and most of them didn’t know her very well before her marriage. Why shouldn’t they suspect that Belle was knowingly covering for him? Why would they believe any protestations from Rumple to that effect?
Well, if people had their senses about them, I think they’d know better than to implicate Belle in Rumple’s duplicity. After all, Hook knows that Rumple gave Belle a fake dagger and said so in the call to Emma. However, there are a few things which could turn the town against Belle. First, there is the obvious: the spell of shattered sight. It makes people believe the worst about others and themselves it seems (as Belle’s conversation with her own reflection revealed). So now the townspeople are likely going to be turning on one another, and this will probably lead to a bunch of people like Grumpy turning on Belle. Also, Belle can’t rely on Hook to tell about the fake dagger because he’s being controlled by Rumple, who likely also magically erased the message Hook left on Emma’s phone. Finally, I think the cost of Rumple secretly pursuing power may be his marriage.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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ParticipantRemember my wishful-thinking theory posted about 20 pages back…
So I was thinking more about the scene of Emma holding the swan necklace. Rumple said that “Sometimes, with enough love, ordinary objects can come to possess their own special kind of magic.” Could that swan necklace have a part to play in the story still? What other objects have we seen have their own special type of magic? We’ve see Snow’s engagement ring have a magic that led Charming to his true love in S1. We saw Belle’s cup be used as her talisman to help her regain her true memories in S2. Rumple also used Bae’s shaw to protect his memories in the real world. We saw the swan necklace travel realms in S3. That swan pendant likely has magic of its own.
Now in S4 we also have a few more “ordinary objects” with their own special kind of magic: the ribbons that Ingrid and her sisters wore and the snowflake necklace that Elsa gave to Anna. I don’t know quite how these ordinary items will impact the story, if at all, but I just find it interesting that Emma was clutching at her necklace just as her own magic was on the fritz.
Elsa and Emma are now wearing the yellow ribbons that Ingrid and her sisters wore, so I’m guessing that Elsa and Emma are going to be affected by them, and not in a good way. Could the swan necklace Emma has and the snowflake necklace Elsa has help them overcome Ingrid’s influence on them?
Both the snowflake necklace and the swan necklace seem to be imbued with true love magic, so it could be a thing. I *know* this is probably wishful thinking on my part, but I just thought I’d mention it after DSB brought our attention to Emma holding the necklace.
There was also this official ABC promo for S4 that JMo tweeted:
Emma swan is #FROZEN #FrozenIsComing #OnceUponATime #UglyDucklings pic.twitter.com/T5m4ukxRbB
— Jennifer Morrison (@jenmorrisonlive) September 15, 2014
Now I *know* that the swan pendant is likely just being used as a symbol for Emma, the way say the sword is a symbol for David or the bow/arrow is for Snow, but I still thought it would be cool to use to support this totally-wishful-thinking crack theory.
Well now there is actually a solid thing I believe might lend support to this theory. *Runs and hides from RG *
It seems I might be correct in at least half of my theory about the snowflake necklace being what helps Elsa now that she’s linked to Ingrid via the yellow ribbon. There is a spoiler video which reveals Emma is holding what appears to be a necklace when she and Elsa find Anna and Kristoff in a trunk on a beach. I think that it’s the snowflake necklace, which was born of sisterly true love, that leads Elsa to Anna. The snowflake necklace seems to have a special kind of magic of its own, which has important potential implications for the swan necklace. So we have the snowflake necklace playing an important role in reuniting sisters. Could the swan necklace actually also come to play an important role for Emma in the story? After all, it was born of true love.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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ParticipantLooks like Emma May have spotted something else out there in the sea.
Ursula, perhaps?
Plus, I love that the necklace actually led them to Anna and Kristoff
Interesting. Rumple said, “sometimes, given enough love, ordinary objects can come to possess a special kind of magic.” The snowflake necklace was born of sisterly true love, so maybe the snowflake necklace is what leads Elsa back to Anna.
Please don’t put that clock tower in front of a blue screen.
Hmmm. In 4×8, Will Scarlet told Robin Hood that the place to search for answers about the storybook was in the library beneath the clock tower, because the clock was the first thing to start working again when Emma decided to stay in SB in S1. So maybe the clock tower being filmed before a blue screen has something to do with this concept of the author of the book.
I’m imagining Grumpy running through the town yelling.. “TIDAL WAVE! IT’S COMING!”
Oh gosh. You could be onto something. The screen is blue rather than green, perhaps because more green vines cover SB (it wouldn’t be the first time, since that happened in S2 I believe). It could be a shout out to Maleficent causing vines to grow on Aurora’s castle, and we know Maleficent is coming. Also, Maleficent was entrapped under the library.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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ParticipantI think it’s a good thing to show acceptance of oneself as being important to a healthy self-identity. Like anything, one’s sense of self can become distorted going to the extremes of self-loathing or on the opposite extreme of narcissism. So Emma learning to accept herself as having magic is a good thing provided it doesn’t go so far as reveling in her own awesomeness too much (as I think Ingrid is prone to do).
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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ParticipantWhile we are in a storyline where Rumple is in a quest to contain powerful magic in that hat, I fear for Henry and/or Baby Neal if they display signs of having the gift of magic.
Good point.
I’m not sure Rumple would harm his own grandson. (Except for that one time when he tried to cut the cords on the swing set) but, whatever. I think he at least has enough respect for his own son, Neal, not to hurt his son.
I highly question Rumple not harming Neal’s family. Rumple made a promise at Neal’s grave to turn over a new leaf but went right back to his acquistion of power as soon as that darn sorcerer’s hat appeared. Rumple didn’t have enough respect for the memory of his son not to target Emma in this episode. But as for Henry, maybe Rumple would be more interested potentially in training his grandson as his own protégé.
However, baby Snowflake, is another matter. I think Rumple might be VERY interested in that baby. I think we will see Snowflake’s magic sooner rather than later.
Yeah I agree. Baby Snowflake being his son’s namesake doesn’t seem like a big enough reason to spare the poor babe. And I also agree that I think baby Snowflake will be showing some sort of magic ability.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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ParticipantWhat does Pod! stand for? I get the gist that it means someone acts uncharacteristically, but what does it mean?
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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