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How did Rumple come to have Anna’s necklace in his shop? Also, Elsa was trapped inside of the urn, which was in Rumple’s castle. So I think Rumple had something to do with that, too. I think Rumple also maybe had something to do with Anna’s disappearance as revenge for her taking the sorcerer’s hat from him. But by the time he tracked down Anna in Arendelle to get back the sorcerer’s hat, Ingrid had already made it our world, along with the hat. In his anger, Rumple locked up Anna and captured Elsa in the bottle.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

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I reckon the Snowflake will be who/what snaps Emma back into the frame of mind where her powers are no longer dangerous. The kid will do something magical and make a magical connection with his magical sister that will make their mother magically realise that she shouldn’t ever be afraid of the big sibling holding the little sibling and all will be magically forgiven.

Good theory. I really like this since sibling love is at the heart of Frozen. Anna and Elsa’s sisterly love is what helped Elsa learn to control her magic. Ingrid’s rejection of her sisters’ love doomed her sister, because Ingrid chose to live in fear. Emma having true love for her brother could be what helps her stop living in fear and brings Emma’s magic back under control. As for Emma’s baby brother having magic, I think it’s quite possible since when he was born, the lights flickered. As for a baby using magic, there is precedent for this already in the show. Baby Zelena used magic to save her adoptive parents, so maybe Emma’s brother could save her magically. Also, A&E said we’ll find out if baby Snowflake has magic, which I take to mean, yes, he has magic. Rumple did say the sibling bond is worth its weight in magic, so Emma having sisterly love towards her brother could work to balance her out.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

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Happy Birthday, Watcher!

I just posted this in another thread…

I reckon the Snowflake will be who/what snaps Emma back into the frame of mind where her powers are no longer dangerous. The kid will do something magical and make a magical connection with his magical sister that will make their mother magically realise that she shouldn’t ever be afraid of the big sibling holding the little sibling and all will be magically forgiven.

…and now I’m sitting here thinking about baby Namestealer being the one who reunites the family just like Neal helped reunite the family, and how he taught her what home is, and then baby Namestealer could help her rediscover that. And it’s making me wanna cry all the frustrated tears.

I could actually see this happening. First, we saw baby Zelena use magic, so it’s not impossible baby Snowflake could too. Next, it was Emma’s jealousy over her brother being raised by their parents which made the bottle of milk boil, so her realizing how much she loves her brother would be the cure to her controlling her magic. Rumple did say the sisterly bond is a very powerful form of magic, so Emma having sisterly love towards her brother would work to balance her out like Anna’s and Elsa’s love did for them. Also, A&E confirmed we’re supposed to find out if baby Snowflake has magic this season, which I take to mean, yes. I’m inclined to think baby Snowflake and Emma sharing a magical moment could be pretty powerful. It’d be cool if baby Snowflake magically saved Emma as baby Zelena saved her adoptive parents.

Now whether that is how it will actually go down depends on how true A&E want to be to the Frozen theme of sibling love. As of late, the writers have been very faithful to that movie, and they haven’t strayed much at all. Then again, we’re talking about Emma, not a Disney character, so the writers may cast out sibling love in favor of romantic love again. But my hope is that either sisterly love for Snowflake, daughter love for Snow and Charming, or maternal love for Henry will win the day. The tension between Snow and Emma has been going on a while, and their mother-daughter relationship hit a low point in 4×7. Maybe that was meant to happen so that Emma saving Snowflake (or even vice-versa) with magic will help restore the bond for Snow trusting Emma to babysit her brother.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

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just thought of something…. If Henry has magic like Emma and Baby Snowflake, isn’t that proof he was born of true love just like Emma and Baby Snowflake.

I keep going back to Henry’s and Snowflake’s births, when the lights flickered. That was not just a random thing since it was a repeated parallel. Both Henry and Snowflake are born of true love. Also, I think Henry working as an apprentice to the greatest wizard of the Enchanted Forest and helping Regina, a powerful witch, is going to spark Henry’s magic. So the combination of light and dark magic I think is going to result in the revelation that Henry is magical. Baby Snowflake also having magic is within the realms of possibility, since we did see baby Zelena have magic.

Also, Not on topic but does anyone know why the Disney crackfics are a few EPs behind still?

I think the person who runs that blog doesn’t recap every episode. It’s probably a time-permitting kinda thing.

I think I’m over feeling frustrated by the many ways in which this is NOT a good story, and able to enjoy that TV is a vastly different medium with a different purpose than written novels. I’ll still laugh when someone says A&E are “Master Storytellers” when what they are is “entertainers” and they’re not masters, not by far.

That is sort of how I feel now. While I miss Neal, I don’t tend to get as emotionally invested now in the storyline. I don’t take it too seriously, and I don’t think even the show takes itself that seriously anymore (Captain Guyliner was an obvious jab).

Be that as it may, I think its nice that Emma’s love for Neal is not portrayed as something that never happened, regardless of whether the writers decide its something that is only part of the past of this story or not.

I appreciate the little tributes to Neal. It seems a little late for that rememberance, but in my estimation, it’s better than nothing.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

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I know all this. I’m SF shipper too, remember?

Of course, I remember. I wasn’t implying you weren’t. I was referring the audience as a whole, who may or may not have associated that scene with Emma’s memories of Neal. To them, the yellow bug is just Emma’s set of wheels.

It doesn’t matter. All these little SF moment–intentional on the writers or not–don’t matter!!! This is what I’m saying. All these moments are just 1000000000x more freaking painful becuase it’s not going to come to anything. Ever. EVER.

It’s CS. It’s going to be CS and I have to sit through it and hate every single last second of it and for them to keep throwing Neal in my face is just more hurtful than having to watc the stpud pirate.

ok. i need to leave. i can’t decide who im more angry at right now.

Again, I know we SF fans recognize the bug as Emma’s home, her retreat. I know that it may not mean that to everyone else watching the same scene. I know it probably doesn’t indicate that Emma will break up with Hook or that she’ll suddenly find a way to reverse Neal’s death. I know there’s probably a 1 in a million chance of that ever happening. But if you re-read what I wrote, you’ll see I was simply appreciating that moment for what it was: Emma sitting in her home and holding her swan necklace. I wrote I appreciated what that moment meant in and of itself to SF fans, rather than for whatever else it might or might not entail.

I’m sorry if anything I wrote offended you. But just because Neal is gone and likely isn’t ever coming back, it doesn’t mean we still can’t appreciate the moments we do get. It doesn’t mean those small moments don’t matter to at least some of us. That moment mattered to a lot of SF fans, even if for different reasons. I don’t think they’re just meaningless, haphazardly placed things; I think they’re deliberate, scripted moments that show how much Neal meant to Emma. And I’d rather Emma be shown to have these small, human moments than to have no emotions or grief over losing Neal. I’d rather Emma feel something, rather than nothing towards her first true love. Would I prefer she move on with someone other than Hook? Absolutely. Do I realize that she probably will end up with Hook? Yes. But I still appreciate the little victories, as I like to call those small moments, when Emma remembers Neal.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

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The moment over looking SB might be more of an SF moment given all the clues, but her jumping in her yellow bug is just a natural and logical move given the context of the moment.

Maybe it’s both. The yellow bug is a symbol for Emma as much as it is a symbol for Swanfire. Those of us who adore SF will recognize it as being both, while those who don’t won’t necessarily see it that way. But Emma kept that car for a reason, even though she clearly was making enough money to afford a new car by the time the pilot aired. Emma had a very nice apartment in Boston, as did she and Henry in Manhattan. If Emma had wanted to be rid of that car because it reminded her of the painful memories she shared with Neal, then she would’ve traded it in. Yet, in both instances (non-cursed memories and cursed memories), Emma kept that car because of the association with all the good memories she shared with Neal. So for me, it’s both logical and natural that Emma would retreat to the yellow bug: it’s both her set of wheels and her home. Remember what Emma said to Thomas’ dad in 1×4: “Some people only have the backseat of a car.” Clearly, she was talking about her own home with Neal, which she kept to this day. The bug is still her home away from home. So I appreciate that tiny moment for what it was, rather than whatever else it might or might not be.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

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See, I saw her retreat to the bug as a SF moment too…that’s HOME for her. And it’s her ice castle.

Even though Emma recognized in the finale that her home is wherever her parents are because she just missed them while away, I think her bug will always represent her first home, the one she shared with Neal. It’s still her get-away place where she goes when she wants to be alone. It’s almost like you could see her thinking of when Neal was in the passenger seat next to her. She was holding the swan necklace, because Neal was probably one of the few people who ever really understood her. Before Neal, only Lily and maybe Ingrid ever connected with Emma, but Neal was her first real family.

I watch the scene, can’t help myself when Neal or Sfers is hinted at. That scene made me miss Neal and think he would be there to comfort her with a cup coffee in this time of need. Its scenes like those that make you go, Neal should be there.

I agree with that. I think that Neal would know where to look for Emma in her car. He’d probably figure out she’d retreat to some place off the beaten path. Emma and Neal were cut from the same cloth. They understood each other intuitively. Emma knew from her own experience why Baelfire had stopped counting the days he spent in NL: it was because he lost hope. Emma knows exactly what that feels like. It feels to me like that is where she is at emotionally right now: hopeless, which is interestingly where a lot of SF are at emotionally, too. Is that by design? Are we meant to be on the same emotional journey as Emma?

Also, as much as I find it a convenient plot development due to Frozen, Emma losing control of her magic is actually interesting for me to watch. But, Emma has never felt misunderstood by her parents because of her magic; she felt misunderstood by them because of her feelings of abandonment. Remember how when Neal and Emma met, he said the reason he left was because things got bad for him where he came from. Emma replied, “Bad home life? I get that.” Emma and Neal both felt like orphans. Only children who have grown up without parents could know what that’s really like. Not even Henry could fully appreciate what it’s like, because as Emma said in the pilot, at least he had a home with Regina. Neal understood Emma better than anyone.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

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So, I agree that from a legal standpoint Robin is a widower and may not “technically” be married to Marian anymore. Here’s the rub, though: he has called her “my wife” many times now. He considers himself married. So in the eyes of the law, it might not be adultery. But in his eyes and heart, he and Marian are still wed, still man and wife, and that might make it worse.

See, I think Robin Hood is still technically married since his wife never died, thanks to the interference in the original timeline. I’ve seen it argued that Marian and Robin’s vows were made “until death do us part” and that they ended when Marian died. However, Marian traveling forward in time is an amazing circumstance, since Emma’s interference means Marian never actually died. The marriage vows that she and Robin made are still in effect because death never actually parted them. When Emma and Hook traveled to the past, they created an alternate timeline in which Robin was never widowed.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

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Ingrid and Elsa being trapped in the urn reminds me of a genie being trapped in his bottle. In Wonderland, we were shown that Cyrus the genie had a comfortable apartment set up in his bottle. Yet, he seemed perfectly  sane to me even after centuries inside that bottle. Maybe it’s because he was released from time to time to grant people their wishes, unlike the Snow Queen who was always trapped inside of the urn. All of that solitary confinement is bound to drive the poor lady mad. She was probably in there a good 20+  years–at least as long as it took for Elsa and Anna to grow to adulthood, since I think Ingrid was trapped in there before either princess had even been born.

I think the reason Elsa isn’t crazy like her aunt, despite also being trapped in the jar, is because she didn’t spend enough time in there. We don’t know for sure how long she was trapped inside, but it couldn’t have been more than a few years, seeing how she traveled through time in the urn, rather than being trapped in there for the entire duration of the curse. So Elsa probably wasn’t trapped in the urn for longer than three or four years, and maybe less, depending on when someone entrapped her in it.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

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