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Now, i am wondering if it is not Robin and instead it is Jafar or Hades. Maybe someone is being Cora’d.
Interesting! I think that would actually be a good twist if it weren’t really Robin but were Jafar. That would explain better why Robin didn’t age in the AU like Charming, Snow, or Hook did.
[adrotate group="5"]"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Is it me, or were the writers aware of the “Hook killed PapaCharming” theory? It felt like they were intentionally trying to throw people off from it for the majority of the episode, only to go “Surprise! It was Hook!” literally within the last few minutes. I recall the theory dates back to SDCC, based on comments Josh and Colin made.
Honestly, I wouldn’t put it past A&E. They pay attention to Twitter for some reason. I think they did it to mess with people. They also really like to drudge up stuff they know will cause a reaction, and I’m almost positive they do it on purpose. (Probably because they’re desperate to keep this show going, and they might misguidedly think that bad publicity is still publicity). At least it gets people angrily tweeting (even though this may backfire and have even fewer people tune in next week as a result).
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
I’m going to reply to something RG wrote in another thread about Hook’s crime because I don’t want to stir up something outside of our safe space.
RumplesGirl wrote: To me this shows the writer’s worst instincts. I was prepared to let George be the killer because while it would have been predictable, the overall story of Robert’s journey to find his lost son and bring him home was charming (no pun) and heartwarming and matched nicely with the likes of Rumple/Neal and present day Charming and Emma. But no. The writers have to go and have a big tweetable twist like Hook killing Robert and then wanting to propose to Emma. It’s the worst inclination to not let sleeping dogs lie but constantly stir up more drama that ultimately leads nowhere.
This “twist” really is needless drama at this point and it stirs up pointless argumentation. Even though I kinda expected Hook would be the one to kill Charming’s dad, I actually liked Hook this episode in the present day, but the writers just had to go there and drudge up Hook’s dark past. I think he’s never really able to leave it behind completely, even if he claims to be a “good” pirate now. (Is that even a thing?) Yes, we already knew that Hook was a lying, thieving, murderous pirate in the past, but now it’s somehow more personal to the blessed family because it was Charming’s father and Emma’s grandfather whom Hook murdered? To me, it’s no different than when Hook killed his other victims. My issue with Hook proposing to Emma isn’t only Hook’s dark past since we already knew Hook murdered people in cold blood. Heck, we’ve seen it on screen when he killed his own dad, and Hook told Emma he collected his rings off of his dead victims. Emma knows she’s dating a serial killer. It’s her choice I guess. (Not that I endorse dating murderers).
Like RG wrote, this move shows the writers’ worst instincts. I just don’t think that it’s a good storytelling move, especially if the writers want the audience to sympathize with Hook as a “reformed” pirate who really has changed and is trying to better himself. Why though? It doesn’t make sense to remind the audience of the misdeeds of Hook if they want the audience to root for him as Emma’s intended future husband. If anything, I think it has the exact opposite effect on the general audience (not talking about Hook fans here). I don’t expect anything to come of this revelation either beyond a light slap on the wrist for Hook, but I don’t think it’ll win over anyone who may have been starting to see him in a new light, which isn’t good if the writers want people to root for Hook and Emma (unless the writers don’t want us to root for them, which I doubt at this stage).
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
@RG – You’re right. No more drama, please. What’s the point? Life is too short and precious. Also, this chapter of OUAT is almost over, mercifully. May peace, love, and harmony reign. And let’s again watch the video by MRJ, an official ambassador and advocate for Bullies Keep Out! May everyone seek to live by MRJ’s and Sean’s examples. They are men of real peace and compassion.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
How ironic. Almost everywhere else online is toxic to SF fans. Usually, SF fans aren’t the ones causing trouble either, and SF fans have been largely driven away from almost every other social media outlet or online fan forum. We mostly keep to this thread and it’s not like we go into the CS appreciation thread to stir up trouble. We constantly get told by certain fans to be quiet because their fave couple is now canon, and we get told time and again that Neal is the worst character ever — even though he never killed anyone (unlike actual villains of the show). This is the one place where we can actually be civil when we disagree while almost everywhere else on the Internet is the Wild West. (Just look at Twitter, Facebook, Tumblr, and the comments sections of Youtube and other media outlets to see who is usually guilty of being toxic to whom). Just because we don’t praise the pirate all the time doesn’t mean we’re not also fans, and we aren’t the only ones who’re dissatisfied with the way the show has unfolded either. General fans are unhappy too, as are fans of several other characters who feel like the show took a turn for the worst in season three and never really recovered.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
I don’t understand why some people feel the need to enter the SF thread at all except to cause trouble or to gloat. Yes, Jennifer Morrison has said things in support of Emma and her character’s decisions all along, but that is to be expected because it is literally her job to sell the show. She is a professional actress, and as such she gets paid to follow the party line. Ginny Goodwin, Emilie de Ravin, and Jared Gilmore also now follow the pro-CS party line like good professional actors are supposed to do, even though they all previously tweeted in season two that they loved Emma and Neal together, but since then they have all had to fall in line with ABC because of the “new direciton” (i.e. CS romance). But there is no telling what will come out in the future when the actors leave the show and no longer have to give an edited reply because they won’t be bound by a paycheck or an ABC contract.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
THAT!
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
I guess it depends on whether you think the story started with Emma or Henry. Bc if you think it started with Emma and Snowing giving birth to her, the Savior, then having a child with Hook and having their daughter/son be the focus of the next season makes more sense than you are making it seem. Plus if we do get a CS wedding right toward the end of the season, that relationship will be front and center and would make sense if their future child was brought into the finale. If you think the story started with Henry when he left to go find her, then it would make sense that the child is Henry’s. You’re speaking in absolutes and I caution you. You could easily say a CS child would be bringing the story full circle just as much as a Henry child.
We just really see it differently then. Emma’s prsent-day story really started when Henry found her on her 28th birthday, and their relationship was the focus of season one in the present day. Emma discovered her love for Henry, as shown by her TLK. She chose to stay in SB because of Henry. She even said she became the savior because of Henry. He was the one who taught her how to love again. Henry was the one who brought her home. That is why Emma had to give him up…so he could be the one to find her. The rest of the story being about Henry and his child is the thing that makes the most narrative sense to me based on the casting calls of the characters and on the season one story arc. People can say it’ll be about a CS kid, but I have my strong doubts. The present-day narrative started with Emma accepting her role as a mother, and I think it’ll continue with Henry accepting his role as a father. I think he’ll break the pattern of absent fathers in his paternal line.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Neither new character is a CS child. Just read the character descriptions. The man is clearly Henry, and that is his kid (whether adopted or biological). A&E aren’t going to put some random person like Prince Neal or an unborn child as the star of a new season. They’re going to put Henry, who is the author and central to the story going forward. He isn’t going to be taking care of a potential half-sister. It’ll be his daughter because A&E love to have things come full circle, and Henry will have to form a connection with his own child the way he and Emma had to in season one. They just like their circular story telling and parallels too much to write it differently.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
I think it’s a load of crock. That man is not an adult CS child just based on the casting calls. The character description matches Henry, who has the heart of the truest believer and is already a developed character. He’s clearly Henry as an adult. Just look at him next to a picture of Jared Gilmore. Even if the girl were the adopted daughter of CS, would the CSers really want that? She comes from a broken home (i.e. divorce); some people just have no sense and are desperate to have their fave couple procreate that they’ll say any new character could be a potential CS baby (even when she is clearly Latina and not their biological child).
It’s never enough for them that Emma already has a son because Henry is also Neal’s son and not the beloved pirate’s son. No matter what, Henry will never think of the pirate as his father — he said as much in 6×6 and rejected him as his father figure. Henry doesn’t even need another father figure anyway because he has Grandpa Charming, who is a much better male influence than Hook.
Also, Henry being the star of the next season just makes a lot of sense. He’s central to the story as the author. He has the heart of the truest believer. We know that he was born of true love, the way Emma was. And that is what is really the source of the problem for CS fans. Henry was born of true love. He is a hero and the son of the savior. He is special the way Emma is special. He’s potentially a savior too.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
